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Offline wilber

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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2018, 05:13:18 pm »
I think an accusation of racism is too often used as a tactic to try and shut down an argument.
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« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2018, 05:21:32 pm »
I think an accusation of racism is too often used as a tactic to try and shut down an argument.

I guess the best thing to do when you suspect racism is question it, rather than simply shut down, unless it becomes apparent.
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« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2018, 05:35:57 pm »
So lets have your definition of racism.

The dictionary definition:
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racism (rāˈsĭzˌəm)
n.   Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
So saying someone has "white privilege" is racist because the speaker is discriminating against people based on race.

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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2018, 05:42:58 pm »
I guess the best thing to do when you suspect racism is question it, rather than simply shut down, unless it becomes apparent.

They don't question, they accuse. But I agree.
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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2018, 05:49:58 pm »
The dictionary definition: So saying someone has "white privilege" is racist because the speaker is discriminating against people based on race.

You seem a bit confused. White privilege is one of the generators of racism. ID'ing that is not racism.

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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2018, 06:01:48 pm »
That about sums up the far right.

Agreed. SJWs are the opposite side of that ilk.
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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2018, 06:02:31 pm »
OMG. You would never say something sneering and contemptuous would you?

I have and will, especially when dealing with the likes of you. But I wouldn't claim a virtuous innocence afterward when you replied in kind.
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« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2018, 06:03:51 pm »
It's not a "category" it's simply a pejorative term used by people who apparently don't like the concept pf social justice.

SJWs are not interested in justice and never have been.
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« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2018, 06:09:44 pm »
I suggest it's used as a pejorative because the concept ruffles the feathers of right wingers who are comfortable in the status quo and don't want the hassle of dealing with human rights and such.

The people you refer to as 'right wingers' created human rights - and this country.
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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2018, 06:10:13 pm »
The dictionary definition: So saying someone has "white privilege" is racist because the speaker is discriminating against people based on race.

Thats weird.  Its pretty well known that better-looking people tend to get better gigs (romance, jobs, friends, grades) generally speaking; saying so is not denigrating better looking people, its acknowledging a fact of life.  Nor does saying so mean that ugly people never do well or that attractive people never fail. 

In Canada, white people also tend to get better gigs.  In Muslim majority countries, Muslims tend to get better gigs.  In Chinese majority countries, Chinese tend to get better gigs.  None of that means Whites in Canada, Muslims in the Middle East or Chinese in Peking are universally successful or that brown people in Canada, Christians in the Middle East or Malaysians in Peking can never get ahead.   

The reason for these better gigs for some and not others in the macro sense is due to "isms", sexism, racism, ect.   Claiming this kind of discrimination doesn't exist because of individual examples that go against the overall trend is disingenuous.

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« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2018, 06:12:17 pm »
Iím not really sure what I expect from people who claim that promoting tolerance is intolerant and criticizing racism is racist.

You ah, think of yourelf as tolerant, do you?  ::)

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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2018, 06:14:46 pm »
I think an accusation of racism is too often used as a tactic to try and shut down an argument.

Its also used as a form of moral posturing, as the person using it, by definition, is of course displaying how morally superior they are to the 'racist'.
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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2018, 06:16:04 pm »
I guess the best thing to do when you suspect racism is question it, rather than simply shut down, unless it becomes apparent.

Omni: "Hey, there's dust under my bed... RACISM! RACISM! This dust is racist!!!"
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Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2018, 06:17:11 pm »
Thats weird.  Its pretty well known that better-looking people tend to get better gigs (romance, jobs, friends, grades) generally speaking; saying so is not denigrating better looking people, its acknowledging a fact of life.  Nor does saying so mean that ugly people never do well or that attractive people never fail. 

In Canada, white people also tend to get better gigs.

Asians get even better gigs. Soooo, what happened to that White Privilege...?
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« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2018, 06:19:58 pm »
Asians get even better gigs. Soooo, what happened to that White Privilege...?

Yawn.  Please read what I posted: its not just about money you nitwit.