Author Topic: SJW as an Insult  (Read 1580 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline BC_cheque

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1746
SJW as an Insult
« on: March 16, 2018, 12:10:24 pm »
I've noticed that SJ and his like-minded cohorts love to throw around SJW as an insult but it's so ineffective as an insult that it's funny. 

I'm guessing Libtard is too juvenile and lefty just doesn't sound insulting enough, but is 'Social Justice Warrior' as an insult seriously a thing?  Why?!

First off, I love the sound of it.  I love social justice and to me warrior denotes showing passion toward something.  Given that the terms started off with positive connotations goes to show that there is nothing wrong with the wording itself.

Second, nothing makes me smile more than seeing right-wingers make a distinction between me and themselves.  I have very little respect about their opinions so when they draw a line in the sand and put me in a different category than themselves I can't help but feel a sense of achievement.  It's like I'm giving myself an internal high-five for NOT being anything like them.

Do you ever get really pissed off at another driver and when you pass them you realize that they were oblivious to your existence?  That feeling that you were all alone in your anger and that it wasn't reciprocated perfectly captures the essence of the expression "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Being called an SJW is exactly the same to me.  You're the angry driver and I'm the other driver oblivious to the veins blowing in your forehead.

You really need to find something else to insult me with because this one has the exact opposite of effect of what you're trying to achieve.

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter

Like Like x 1 Winner Winner x 1 View List

guest4

  • Guest
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2018, 12:19:54 pm »
Thanks, this is awesome.  I shall have to cultivate some of that attitude.

Another thing I don't understand is the need some people have to randomly throw insults at an entire group, either in a thread title, their opening post or any subsequent post.   Its hard to believe these people are interested in discussion when they start off by accusing and blaming, then insulting an "identity group" that they happen to disapprove of.   Just like some religious zealots, these people seem to be encased in a bubble no amount of logic or evidence could possibly pierce.   
Like Like x 2 View List

Offline wilber

  • Administrator
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8324
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 12:22:33 pm »
I've noticed that SJ and his like-minded cohorts love to throw around SJW as an insult but it's so ineffective as an insult that it's funny. 

I'm guessing Libtard is too juvenile and lefty just doesn't sound insulting enough, but is 'Social Justice Warrior' as an insult seriously a thing?  Why?!

First off, I love the sound of it.  I love social justice and to me warrior denotes showing passion toward something.  Given that the terms started off with positive connotations goes to show that there is nothing wrong with the wording itself.

Second, nothing makes me smile more than seeing right-wingers make a distinction between me and themselves.  I have very little respect about their opinions so when they draw a line in the sand and put me in a different category than themselves I can't help but feel a sense of achievement.  It's like I'm giving myself an internal high-five for NOT being anything like them.


Do you ever get really pissed off at another driver and when you pass them you realize that they were oblivious to your existence?  That feeling that you were all alone in your anger and that it wasn't reciprocated perfectly captures the essence of the expression "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Being called an SJW is exactly the same to me.  You're the angry driver and I'm the other driver oblivious to the veins blowing in your forehead.

You really need to find something else to insult me with because this one has the exact opposite of effect of what you're trying to achieve.

Come on, both sides like to throw labels around.
"Never trust a man without a single redeeming vice" WSC
Like Like x 1 Agree Agree x 2 View List

Offline SirJohn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5801
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 12:29:52 pm »
I'm guessing Libtard is too juvenile and lefty just doesn't sound insulting enough, but is 'Social Justice Warrior' as an insult seriously a thing?  Why?!

Being Left isn't necessarily a bad thing. I support a number of policies and ideas which would probably be considered left of center.

Quote
First off, I love the sound of it.  I love social justice and to me warrior denotes showing passion toward something.  Given that the terms started off with positive connotations goes to show that there is nothing wrong with the wording itself.

Passion, yes. Another word would be zealous, as in zealots, as in violent, ignorant, hate-filled people who know virtually nothing about the things they're so 'passionate' about. SJWs ignore complexity and have a very narrow focus. To them, they're noble and supporting great causes. Anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy, who they seek always to silence and punish. Mao's Red Guards would be the equivalent of the SJWs today, in their mindset and violent 'passion', and their hate for heretics and 'counter revolutionaries'.

So I'm not surprised you identify with such people. You share their disdain and contempt for anyone who disagrees with you.
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum
Winner Winner x 1 View List

Offline BC_cheque

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1746
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 12:33:24 pm »
Come on, both sides like to throw labels around.

No doubt but my point was something different.  The term SJW is NOT an insult even though some are desperately trying to make it out to be.

It'd be like me calling you a conservative as though it's an insult but you don't mind being called a conservative.

It's time to get creative and step up the game.  Using SJW as an insult is ridiculously ineffective in what it's trying to achieve.

I personally don't mind it one bit!   ;)

Offline BC_cheque

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1746
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2018, 12:36:06 pm »
Being Left isn't necessarily a bad thing. I support a number of policies and ideas which would probably be considered left of center.

Passion, yes. Another word would be zealous, as in zealots, as in violent, ignorant, hate-filled people who know virtually nothing about the things they're so 'passionate' about. SJWs ignore complexity and have a very narrow focus. To them, they're noble and supporting great causes. Anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy, who they seek always to silence and punish. Mao's Red Guards would be the equivalent of the SJWs today, in their mindset and violent 'passion', and their hate for heretics and 'counter revolutionaries'.

So I'm not surprised you identify with such people. You share their disdain and contempt for anyone who disagrees with you.

My previous answer to Wilber applies equally to your post here but you're welcome to keep holding on to that coal with the intention to throw it at me, you're the one getting burned.

I'm not sharing your anger on this one.

Offline wilber

  • Administrator
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8324
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2018, 12:43:30 pm »
No doubt but my point was something different.  The term SJW is NOT an insult even though some are desperately trying to make it out to be.

It'd be like me calling you a conservative as though it's an insult but you don't mind being called a conservative.

It's time to get creative and step up the game.  Using SJW as an insult is ridiculously ineffective in what it's trying to achieve.

I personally don't mind it one bit!   ;)

I try not to use them although I can't claim I never have. Labels are meant to shut down discussion, not advance it. I think of myself as being fairly liberal socially but I don't mind being called a conservative because I usually am politically and economically, even if I don't support some of their social policies. Probably why I have never joined a political party.
"Never trust a man without a single redeeming vice" WSC

Offline SirJohn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5801
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2018, 12:44:43 pm »
My previous answer to Wilber applies equally to your post here but you're welcome to keep holding on to that coal with the intention to throw it at me, you're the one getting burned.

I'm not sharing your anger on this one.

There's a certain familiar whiff of world weary smug whenever a SJW posts. They will say something sneering and contemptuous towards other people, and then when those other people reply in an unflattering manner, they'll pretend to be above the fray. So noble as they walk serenely along, noses aloft. Why, no anger affects them! That is for other people, usually those horrible conservative types. So sad, they think to themselves.

Smug, superior, entitled, dishonest, contemptuous towards others; the hallmark character traits of an SJW
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

Offline cybercoma

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2955
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2018, 12:48:25 pm »
violent, ignorant, hate-filled people who know virtually nothing about the things they're so 'passionate' about.
That about sums up the far right.

Offline Omni

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8563
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2018, 12:50:22 pm »
There's a certain familiar whiff of world weary smug whenever a SJW posts. They will say something sneering and contemptuous towards other people, and then when those other people reply in an unflattering manner, they'll pretend to be above the fray. So noble as they walk serenely along, noses aloft. Why, no anger affects them! That is for other people, usually those horrible conservative types. So sad, they think to themselves.

Smug, superior, entitled, dishonest, contemptuous towards others; the hallmark character traits of an SJW

OMG. You would never say something sneering and contemptuous would you?
Funny Funny x 1 View List

Offline TimG

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2616
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 01:24:48 pm »
I've noticed that SJ and his like-minded cohorts love to throw around SJW as an insult but it's so ineffective as an insult that it's funny.
SJW is a category used to describe people holding various extremely intolerant views and seek to impose those views on others (by mob or legislation). It is an insult only to people who don't agree with those views. It is not a lot different from the way SJWs use the would 'Christian' or 'Necon'.

It also makes no difference if you are proud of adhering to an intolerant and dogmatic social philosophy: the term is still an insult to people who are repelled by it.

IOW - when you see SJW used as an insult you listening to conversation that is not directed at you. It is directed at people who disagree with you and the term is used to establish group boundaries. It is no different than when an SJW uses the term 'Evangelical Christian' - it is an message sent to fellow SJWs to establish what is not allowed in the group.

Offline Omni

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8563
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2018, 01:33:01 pm »
SJW is a category used to describe people holding various extremely intolerant views and seek to impose those views on others (by mob or legislation). It is an insult only to people who don't agree with those views. It is not a lot different from the way SJWs use the would 'Christian' or 'Necon'.

It also makes no difference if you are proud of adhering to an intolerant and dogmatic social philosophy: the term is still an insult to people who are repelled by it.

IOW - when you see SJW used as an insult you listening to conversation that is not directed at you. It is directed at people who disagree with you and the term is used to establish group boundaries. It is no different than when an SJW uses the term 'Evangelical Christian' - it is an message sent to fellow SJWs to establish what is not allowed in the group.

It's not a "category" it's simply a pejorative term used by people who apparently don't like the concept pf social justice.
Agree Agree x 2 View List

Offline ?Impact

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2941
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2018, 01:34:06 pm »
IOW - when you see SJW used as an insult you listening to conversation that is not directed at you.

How dare someone trespass within a delineated echo chamber
Funny Funny x 2 View List

Offline TimG

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2616
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2018, 01:37:47 pm »
How dare someone trespass within a delineated echo chamber
As I said, it is no different than when people on the left use "Evangelical Christian" or "Neocon". It is about setting the boundaries of the echo chamber.

Offline BC_cheque

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1746
Re: SJW as an Insult
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2018, 01:38:58 pm »
It is an insult only to people who don't agree with those views. It is not a lot different from the way SJWs use the would 'Christian' or 'Necon'.

It also makes no difference if you are proud of adhering to an intolerant and dogmatic social philosophy: the term is still an insult to people who are repelled by it.

Interesting comparison with Christianity.  So if I think someone is clutching onto Christianity as basis for intolerance, you don't see the irony in throwing out "you Christian" as an insult when the person takes no offense to being called a Christian?

ETA  - you're saying that my repugnance of Christianity in this hypothetical scenario is enough for the term Christian to be an insult to someone else?  That's not very logical.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 01:44:22 pm by BC_cheque »
Like Like x 1 View List