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Sexual Assault in Canada
« on: March 17, 2018, 10:07:35 am »
Guy breaks into apartment, **** 17-year-old girl, leaves and then comes back to **** her a couple more times.  He uses her phone to video himself doing it, then posts the videos to FB, and deletes the videos from her phone.  A measly 26 months in jail for this guy, who felt sorry for himself when interviewed by a psychiatrist.
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So, what social attitudes and cultural beliefs allowed this guy to believe he could **** a woman three times and post videos on facebook and why would a judge think a mere two years in jail was a reasonable punishment?

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 10:14:52 am »
I think these cases are going to bring the politics of punishment back into the forefront.  Imagine this happening to someone you loved.

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2018, 10:17:16 am »
Another childish attempt to distract from the question of Muslim extremism, violence and misogyny.

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Re: Sexual Assault in Canada
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2018, 10:17:43 am »
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2018, 10:23:51 am »
Did you catch the name of his lawyer? Rame Katrib - dang immigrants are destroying our country.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2018, 10:25:55 am »
What the ?

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Re: Sexual Assault in Canada
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2018, 10:41:39 am »
I think these cases are going to bring the politics of punishment back into the forefront.  Imagine this happening to someone you loved.

For the most part, I don't believe that longer/harsher sentences work to curb crime or rehabilitate criminals.  Sexual offenders, especially violent ones, and **** are a different class, imo.  It's almost impossible to rehabilitate them, so for them I support more incarceration. 

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2018, 10:47:51 am »
Another childish attempt to distract from the question of Muslim extremism, violence and misogyny.

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Oh look, the expert in cultural behavior and the motives of everyone else in the world has no answer when it comes to a white guy committing an horrific crime against a young girl.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2018, 10:53:24 am »
Another one.  A religious leader assaults one of his "flock", and only gets three and a half years.  She's the only one who complained, but if there's one I'm certain there are more - perhaps there will be more step forward in time.  A person like this, who abuses his position of trust in such a way, deserves a much harsher sentence as far as I'm concerned.  And again, what is it about our Canadian culture/society that enables sexual abuse, followed by such meaningless sentences?

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2018, 11:00:12 am »
Example No. 3:  A man lures young girls on the internet, sexually assaults them and takes video to post on the internet.  17 counts, 12 years.  Is that long enough?  I think it should be life; **** especially are very unlikely to be 'cured'.

Are we as a society, too forgiving towards sexual predators?  Are there enough men who 'understand' the interest in young girls, though they would never do so themselves, that they are willing to give these kinds of animals a bit of a break?   

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2018, 11:01:56 am »
For the most part, I don't believe that longer/harsher sentences work to curb crime or rehabilitate criminals.  Sexual offenders, especially violent ones, and **** are a different class, imo.  It's almost impossible to rehabilitate them, so for them I support more incarceration.

Is that just "iyo", or do you have any empirical evidence to support it? I don't know one way or the other, and certainly see these a vile individuals, but wouldn't an evidence based approach be the right way to proceed?

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2018, 11:05:46 am »
I don't think any discussion of sexual assault in Canada would be complete without mentioning Creep Catchers.  Their methods are controversial, but they do seem to find a lot of hopeful ****
http://www.surreycreepcatcher.com/

That they are able to so easily and effectively lure so many guys wanting to have sex with young people is particularly disturbing to me.  Why?  If our society and our culture so thoroughly condemns of this kind of behavior, why are there still so many willing to practice it?  Is there anything in our culture that somehow gives a wink and a nod to these people?

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2018, 11:07:22 am »
Is that just "iyo", or do you have any empirical evidence to support it? I don't know one way or the other, and certainly see these a vile individuals, but wouldn't an evidence based approach be the right way to proceed?

Yes, there is some empirical evidence to support my opinion.  Don't have time to dig it up right now, but will do so when I have more time.

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 11:09:37 am »
Guy breaks into apartment, **** 17-year-old girl, leaves and then comes back to **** her a couple more times.  He uses her phone to video himself doing it, then posts the videos to FB, and deletes the videos from her phone.  A measly 26 months in jail for this guy, who felt sorry for himself when interviewed by a psychiatrist.
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So, what social attitudes and cultural beliefs allowed this guy to believe he could **** a woman three times and post videos on facebook and why would a judge think a mere two years in jail was a reasonable punishment?

Only reading your OP, not the link, and no-one else's post, but 30 years without parole then parole only under the most stringent requirements seems about right.

Those are my cultural beliefs.

Oh, and followed by deportation if he wasn't from here.

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2018, 11:17:28 am »
This is the Stats Can site breaking down types of crime in Canada as of 2016:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal50a-eng.htm

The problem with such stats is they reflect REPORTED crimes.  Most likely with sex crimes given their inherent nation, most are NOT
reported due to things like age, culture, stigma, fear of public humiliation.

The legal process can be brutal. Sex crimes investigations officers suprisingly are well trained. I have worked side by side them. For the most part very good people.

Likewise the front line trauma care nurses  that do the **** kits.

The problem is the system.  Its slow, its cumbersome and the error on the side of caution in regards to presumption of innocence can make victims feel that the system
is stacked against them.

I myself prefer using animals, particularly dogs and horses when cross examining traumatized children or teens.

Some  sex assault counsellors are great others truly unprofessional and in fact treating themselves using the victim as an extension to act out their own unresolved issues.

Its tricky, it is time consuming and a defence lawyer engaged in cross examination can be brutal to the point of disgusting but its the nature of legal defense-cross examination asks
questions difficult to answer so as to test evidence for its credibility. There's ways to do that gently but not always.

For those of us in that system, we came to know which ethnic communities had what levels of sex assault or pedophilia or incest and how each community covered it up often through religious clergy thinking
they were helping by hiding it.

I do know some Priests that struggle with certain things said at confessions or the same with clergy in other confidential discussions and some of them say nothing for that reason.

Believe it or not a lot of mothers go into denial when their children are being **** or molested by their husbands.

The point is the problem has always been there, the media just now is able to report it faster and with cell phones and internet privacy does not keep such things covered up as long.

That said yah you can find stories on it all the time. Its in every grouo or category of humans you want to come up with.

For me its just reality. Its spilled blood. Often cleaning it up is  momentary because within seconds someone else spills some more blood.

It is what it is. The mopping up  never ends.
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