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Offline Goddess

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Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« on: August 29, 2019, 04:30:23 pm »
Looking for your thoughts on a situation:

New girl has been working in the office for the last 2 months.  She is very much into "natural" health and believes in it quite strongly, talks about it alot.

Suddenly makes a request for a scent-free AND chemical-free workplace.

For the last 2 months there has been nothing to indicate that she has this disability.  Her desk is in the open entrance next to the entry doors - we all have our own offices.

She has no medical documentation to say this is necessary.
We diffuse natural oils in our office, which she says is fine - as long as we use only DoTerra brand oils (which she conveniently sells).
She wants the unscented soap we use in the bathrooms changed to DoTerra soap (which she also sells at $30 a bottle)
We have to throw away all our cleaning and kitchen supplies and only use DoTerra brand

She also works at the Sobey's across the street and when I asked her what accomodations they have made for her, she said none.  I asked how she manages that - she says she avoids the cleaning product aisle.

I suspect this is more of a personal preference thing than an actual disability, but we will have to treat it as such either way, to avoid a lawsuit.

I have known people who have chemical sensitivities and they had to wear a mask everywhere they went.  This girl doesn't.  I also understand fragrance and chemical sensitivities and allergies are real but I'm not sure you can be sensitive to ALL chemicals and ALL fragrances - except for DoTerra.  Usually people are sensitive to just certain things.
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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 05:29:44 pm »
It’s a totally reasonable request to have a scent/chemical free workplace.  It doesn’t matter if you[/] have any indication that she has issues with chemicals and/or scents.   What’s not reasonable is a particular brand of soap. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2019, 06:59:22 pm »
I agree that demanding accommodations for a specific brand of soap, etc. are unreasonable. If she has very specific requirements, then she should fill them herself. If she cannot drink from a mug washed in Dawn dish soap, then she needs to bring her own mug and wash it herself.

The issue around diffusing oils in the office can be simply addressed by not doing it. If she want's to diffuse her expensive stuff, as long as nobody else objects then fine but nobody needs that stuff so anyone can say cut it out.

Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 07:19:33 pm »
There are unscented soaps.  Just use those.

But are people required to not wear perfume or scented deodorant ?

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2019, 08:41:17 pm »

But are people required to not wear perfume or scented deodorant ?

They should be anyway....   I don’t want to smell your crappy perfume.

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2019, 08:58:24 pm »
An even more controversial issue is when a coworker has B.O. on a regular basis and it's making for an unhealthy work environment, and then you somehow have to tell them and get them to deal with it somehow.
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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2019, 09:20:02 pm »
They should be anyway....   I don’t want to smell your crappy perfume.

You have no idea what I smell like.  You would love it.
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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2019, 09:59:02 am »
The girl did not want to provide any medical documentation in regard to her needs, nor did she want a policy instituted for our workplace.  I think she realized she was being unreasonable and backed off.

We had her address the entire staff at the next staff meeting and she just said that perfumes and colognes bother her and sometimes give her a headache (although when we asked her, she said she had never gone home from work with a headache) and asked if people could not use them.

We have one young guy who does wear a LOT of cologne - he piped up, "Like not even a little?"

Anyways, it's settled.

I think she's just a young kid who is working her first "real" job and in the style of many millennials, expects everyone to accommodate her and who cares about everyone else.  It was a good learning experience for her.

Unbeknownst to her, she was going to be offered full-time work just before she kicked up this stink.  She's lucky she's still here fore 2 days a week at this point.

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2019, 10:22:34 am »
Sounds like she was unfairly put on the spot and couldn’t stand up for herself against all the staff. 

Having the person with a possible medical issue stand up and address all the staff about it is pretty screwy.  It’s workplace bullying. 

I suppose a place with only a couple staff, no HR or safety committee would solve it this way, but if it’s an office/company of any size, this isn’t a good way to deal with a person’s issue.  You people sound lovely to work with.   ::)
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2019, 11:26:24 am »
Sounds like she was unfairly put on the spot and couldn’t stand up for herself against all the staff. 

Having the person with a possible medical issue stand up and address all the staff about it is pretty screwy.  It’s workplace bullying. 

I suppose a place with only a couple staff, no HR or safety committee would solve it this way, but if it’s an office/company of any size, this isn’t a good way to deal with a person’s issue. 

She wasn't unfairly put on the spot - she chose to address the situation that way - at a staff meeting.  She didn't have to stick up for herself against all the staff - the only ones who knew about it were her superior, myself and the CEO.

There is no medical issue.  Her preference is to live a chemical-free, scent-free life.  Her other job does not accommodate her.  Her family does little to accommodate her.  Believe me - we asked questions to determine the extent of the issue.  It is entirely her preference  - there is no real medical issue.

We are a small company, we don't really have an HR department.  I'm the only one with any HR training at all (4 semesters in college) and they don't really want to listen to any of my advice.

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You people sound lovely to work with.   ::)

It's a pretty toxic workplace.  I think I've mentioned that before.  Thankfully, I have my own office with a door.  I try to stay out of the squabbling.

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2019, 12:18:53 pm »
Did they offer to take it to the team on her behalf ?

Workplace environment is management's job to keep productive and welcoming.

And cutting her hours because of that ?  That's pretty regressive IMO.

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2019, 12:26:40 pm »
Did they offer to take it to the team on her behalf ?

Workplace environment is management's job to keep productive and welcoming.

And cutting her hours because of that ?  That's pretty regressive IMO.

They didn't cut her hours.  They just didn't add any.

Agreed that a lot of our problems come from management.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2019, 01:03:56 pm »
They didn't cut her hours.  They just didn't add any.

Agreed that a lot of our problems come from management.

Management is unbelievably shitty.  I have a trainee shadowing me tomorrow.  I had her earlier this year.  I explained how I work and she seemed stunned that nobody checked the team's comings and goings.

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2019, 01:16:33 pm »
Management is unbelievably shitty.  I have a trainee shadowing me tomorrow.  I had her earlier this year.  I explained how I work and she seemed stunned that nobody checked the team's comings and goings.

What are you talking about???

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Re: Scent/Chemical Free Workplaces
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2019, 01:46:30 pm »
What are you talking about???

What did you misunderstand ?

Management is shitty ?  That's a general opinion I have of the state of management in the world today is all.