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To repeat - because evidently some of you aren't very good at reading - I pointed this out in response to you saying I made stuff up. I asked you to substantiate that - which you have failed to do - and one of your fellow travelers stepped in to say I had made up that over half of Muslim Canadian women wore hijabs.

Still waiting for YOU to back up your statement about how I make stuff up.

And you were linked to recent poll results that showed your assumption on the hijab was wrong. Also, many women who do wear the hijab do so because it is their choice to do so. Kinda like a Christian wearing a cross ya know?

I think I'm out at the other place. The conspiracy theorist and the radical Islamist seem to be running the show. 

I think I'm out at the other place. The conspiracy theorist and the radical Islamist seem to be running the show.

In order to keep from getting dragged back in by my own lack of willpower, I changed my PW and then forgot it. 

After the last week, where literally every damn thread was taken over by those 2, I posted on a thread that was taken over by the conspiracy guy that I nominated him to ask the media why nanothermites were not included in the coverage of a tragedy.....and got a warning for it.  It was my way of reminding him to stay on topic.  But he takes over every frickin thread with no warnings whatsoever.

Haha! Good tip.
Even tho you and I disagree on some things I enjoy hearing your thoughts and that you always give me something to ponder further. Back and forth banter isn't always bad. I appreciate that here.

Yup and I am trying to keep my "tone" a little gentler as a result of your feedback.   

Of course it was, and I have an acquaintance here who still claims no one was shot in Orlando because he didn't see any pictures of body's. However maybe I have just drifted the thread drift thread.

The planes came from outside, but most of the death and destruction was inside, yes.

That's probably because the people were inside, either the planes or the buildings.

Yes.  I agree. Sorry.

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New thoughts:

Some of our frustration of this comes from the arrival into public discussion of the roughly 70 to 80% of masses who have no clue how our systems work.  And it's enraging for us to have to teach such people, especially when they arrive with the attitude of already being above politics and knowing it all.

Sometimes, as with 9/11 conspiracy theorists and alt-right crackpots, they have filled their brains with bad ideas from moron echo chambers.

I just met up with an old colleague from 20 plus years ago.  We drifted apart from work separation, and he got a family.  I remembered when the Gulf War was threatening he was worried we'd be conscripted for it.  Now, we were FAR too old for service even at that point, and conscription wasn't a thing, and we were not in the military.  At first I laughed him off, but he didn't buy it.  So I had to CONVINCE him we weren't as Canadians going to be drafted and sent to Iraq ! 

This guy had the same education, university degree that I did, but seemed to grow up in a house that didn't have discussions about political affairs.  Our house did, and although of course they weren't "balanced" my father did represent the point of view of the other side.

Back to my friend.  Lo and behold, he has bloomed into a truther and an anti-vaxxer.  I got a hint that that may be coming, so I decided to just let it be if it came up.  And my heart sank as he leaned in over the table to tell me that - actually - the media isn't reporting some of the facts blah blah blah...

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We never HAD a public.  We have always had these nutbars.  Those of us who live in reality have to unite to drive out ANY politician who goes after the nutbar vote.