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Offline MH

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You should go check it out, it's been better since the moderation has pretty much disappeared.

Clearly you are paying more attention over here, since I have posted there regularly though not as frequently. 

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I don't care if you don't care about thread drift but do you care if every thread drifts to 3 topics ?

If not, then you prefer a forum of **** and you shall have it.

But every topic DOESN'T drift to three topics, and never did elsewhere either. You once accused me of starting multiple threads on Islam and then couldn't produce anything I'd started over the previous year.

Further, if people want to talk about something, why shouldn't they? Just because you don't want to talk about it shouldn't stop others. Just don't participate on that topic. Is that so hard? There are ridiculous conspiracy topics at MLW and I don't go near them, having zero interest.

I think when a topic is suppressed in the popular media, and when you can be subjected to harsh punishments for talking about it in public, people gravitate towards the internet to talk about it anonymously. That is the case with the clear discomfort about Canada's immigration policies, and the flood of newcomers, especially Muslims. The fact government and media do nothing but issue bland, soothing feel-good statements doesn't help.
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If not, then you prefer a forum of **** and you shall have it.

Have you looked at the forum you moderate lately....?   Those in glass houses.... 

Jmt has been doing a fine job thus far.

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Have you looked at the forum you moderate lately....?   Those in glass houses.... 
 

I live in two houses.

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1) Further, if people want to talk about something, why shouldn't they?
2) Just because you don't want to talk about it shouldn't stop others. Just don't participate on that topic. Is that so hard? 
1) Because it's boring
2) Yes

Offline SirJohn

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Have you looked at the forum you moderate lately....?   Those in glass houses.... 

Jmt has been doing a fine job thus far.

I agree. MLW was basically wrecked by over moderation. It drove lots of people away, and made conversations much more difficult. Not only was the moderation far too enthusiastic (and arrogant) but it was and remains unpredictable and inconsistent.

Now there is a time and a place to do something about thread drift. I admit that. But you can handle that administratively. If there are a couple of people jabbering on about something completely extraneous to the topic while others are trying to discuss the topic you split the damned thread. And if it's just some **** who is trolling and keeps trying to pull things off-topic you just delete everything they post and tell them to shut up.
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I agree. MLW was basically wrecked by over moderation. 

Wrecked ?  The traffic is certainly still there.

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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2017, 10:12:30 pm »
MLW is a bunch of rabid right wing nuts, trolls and a few conspiracy theorist crazies.   And now that insults are allowed the place is even worse...  I didn't think it could get worse, but it has.


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Wrecked ?  The traffic is certainly still there.

The number of posts, and the number of individuals posting is FAR lower than it was in the past.
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2017, 11:21:37 am »
MLW is a bunch of rabid right wing nuts, trolls and a few conspiracy theorist crazies.   And now that insults are allowed the place is even worse...  I didn't think it could get worse, but it has.

You keep saying that, but there are more ultra Left 'wing nuts' than there are right wing nuts. I only have 2 idiots of the right in my ignore list, vs 3 conspiracy loonies and three ultra left 'wing nuts'. And all the conspiracy loonies are far left as well (eyeball, hot enough. Hernanday)
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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 11:40:17 am »
Complaining about moderation at MLW is like oxygen.

People complain about over-moderation and under-moderation equally.  That means it's just right.

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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 12:06:03 pm »
Complaining about moderation at MLW is like oxygen.

People complain about over-moderation and under-moderation equally.  That means it's just right.

No, it doesn't. There were few complaints when Greg was doing it because Greg was more laid back. At another site I post to there is seeming no moderation, though I know there are moderators. They're just very low key and I've never seen a complaint about them.

When all is said and done are there are a lot less people who want to discuss politics than ten or twelve years ago? If not, then why are there are a lot less posters to MLW?
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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 04:33:06 pm »
No, it doesn't. There were few complaints when Greg was doing it because Greg was more laid back. At another site I post to there is seeming no moderation, though I know there are moderators. They're just very low key and I've never seen a complaint about them.

When all is said and done are there are a lot less people who want to discuss politics than ten or twelve years ago? If not, then why are there are a lot less posters to MLW?

Than 12 years ago ?  You're talking a long time ago, bud.  I don't know.

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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 08:04:27 pm »
Than 12 years ago ?  You're talking a long time ago, bud.  I don't know.

I've been there a long time. That's why I can remember better days. Anyway, look at all the posts here. The only reason they're posting here is because they feel less constrained here than they do there. Well, and the crazies aren't here.
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Re: Thread Drift
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2017, 08:43:37 pm »
I've been there a long time. That's why I can remember better days. Anyway, look at all the posts here. The only reason they're posting here is because they feel less constrained here than they do there. Well, and the crazies aren't here.

My reason for preferrring posting here is because the posters don't have a habit of starting topics or arguments with "Leftists...." followed by an insult or nasty generalization etc.  That may change of course, but I have enjoyed not having to read that.