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Offline cybercoma

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2018, 07:08:58 am »
So if you were living in isolation you wouldn't think twice when killing an animal, or about the method of killing it?  Would you let a bird land in your hand to feed and then crush it with your bare hand just for fun?

I think you're right about social action, but animals are living beings like humans so it also comes with social action, or at least a conscience since they also feel pain.,
If I was living in isolation I would need to kill animals for food and self defence. If I was living in isolation, I wouldn't have a sense of the social sanctions to killing because there is no social in isolation. This is a purely abstract hypothetical where someone is raised in isolation without any socialization whatsoever. In reality, this doesn't happen because we are born into social groups, ie, family.

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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2018, 05:26:35 pm »
If I was living in isolation I would need to kill animals for food and self defence. If I was living in isolation, I wouldn't have a sense of the social sanctions to killing because there is no social in isolation. This is a purely abstract hypothetical where someone is raised in isolation without any socialization whatsoever. In reality, this doesn't happen because we are born into social groups, ie, family.

Yes you'd kill for food, but there's also humane and inhumane says to kill.  If you grew up in total isolation maybe that would be different, but hard to predict how someone would feel about animals.  Most probably wouldn't think twice, others might.
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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2018, 08:15:17 am »
http://www.openculture.com/2018/12/bertrand-russells-advice-for-how-not-to-grow-old.html?fbclid=IwAR2J_ecfdTShvwAGFsf_i5FEcMwR8tR7o2SaOWGlqcRGSQ2LcNwPJnbZ2yg

Bertrand Russell was a philosopher and mathematician - this advice comes via him originally from his grandma:

"The best way to overcome it [the fear of death]—so at least it seems to me—is to make your interests gradually wider and more impersonal, until bit by bit the walls of the ego recede, and your life becomes increasingly merged in the universal life. An individual human existence should be like a river: small at first, narrowly contained within its banks, and rushing passionately past rocks and over waterfalls. Gradually the river grows wider, the banks recede, the waters flow more quietly, and in the end, without any visible break, they become merged in the sea, and painlessly lose their individual being. The man who, in old age, can see his life in this way, will not suffer from the fear of death, since the things he cares for will continue. And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will not be unwelcome. I should wish to die while still at work, knowing that others will carry on what I can no longer do and content in the thought that what was possible has been done."

I think I have been doing this.  Our job is to merge the personal political interests of today and create a new way to perceive and consider future events. 

Rather than spending money/frugality or accepting people/protecting our own ... come up with a new lens such as "save now versus pay later" "assess how to allow individuals to make wise choices that will cascade up to our leaders" "think about what is truly valuable".

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« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2019, 02:59:42 pm »
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People always believe they save time by taking a taxi. Let's say you take a taxi and it takes 10 minutes when walking would take 20. Mathematically, you save 10 minutes. But in those 10 minutes in a taxi, you didn't experience anything. If you walk in New York, nothing great is going to happen, necessarily, but something is going to happen. That makes those 20 minutes so much more rich than the 10 minutes in the taxi. So I'm not walking because I think it's better than driving. I'm walking because life is getting a little bit richer than if you drive.

https://www.gq.com/story/why-walking-is-the-key-to-being-more-productive

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2019, 06:10:22 pm »
Except that the cab drivers are wellsprings of knowledge, ie. where you get weed.
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« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2022, 03:02:58 pm »
Interesting explanation of Descartes’ “I think, therefore I am”.  It also goes into why the English might be a mistranslation and that it changes the meaning of it a slight, but significant, bit.

https://youtu.be/lNdrQ2wf6xs
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2022, 08:34:46 am »
This was really good but very dense and frankly an academic-level discussion.

Is this in your wheelhouse, this stuff ?  I dabble in it but strictly a hobbiest.

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« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2022, 07:56:11 pm »
This was really good but very dense and frankly an academic-level discussion.

Is this in your wheelhouse, this stuff ?  I dabble in it but strictly a hobbiest.

 I thought it was pretty digestible for a layperson.  And I am definitely a layperson.  I've never studied philosophy and, up until recently, thought that most if it is unimportant drivel. Navel gazing. 

But I have come around somewhat to realize that maybe navel gazing the big picture stuff is actually kind of interesting.  Do I find it to be important in life?  .... probably not...  I still think the most valuable philosophical endeavours are morality and the philosophy of science.   Descartes musing about how we know whether we exist isn't really all that important, since I really have no choice other than to assume that I do.

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« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2022, 08:02:33 pm »
The School of Life have some fun videos although they have been critiqued for being inaccurate in their summaries of the philosophies.

Still a good watch.
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2022, 09:09:02 pm »
The School of Life have some fun videos although they have been critiqued for being inaccurate in their summaries of the philosophies.

Still a good watch.

Yeah those are pretty good.  Nobody will ever agree any everything, some philosophers are open to interpretation or vague.

It's pretty interesting when you can go back and trace the history of western thought in a timeline.  Philosophers are always very educated about their field and they usually build off the ideas of those who came before, so we can see how ideas evolve.

ie:  Socrates/Plato > Christian philosophers (St Augustine/Aquinas) > Hobbes > Locke > Rousseau/Voltaire/Kant > Hegel > Marx/Nietzsche > Derrida/Foucault etc.
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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2022, 09:28:01 pm »
Yeah, I just get the outline on those guys... but I am a hobbyist...

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« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2022, 11:07:32 am »
Summary of Society of the Spectacle by Debord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJr08N-auM


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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2022, 02:46:49 pm »
Heidegger explained in a wonderful way by the late great Rick Roderick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDqDJJcJAOg

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« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2022, 10:37:17 am »
Finally got the Gist/Geist of the main opus of Hegel...

This guy is a great lecturer.

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« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2022, 02:02:34 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGAcI2aD35Q&list=PLa_4sU5_wQrn_jYUwiVTCDigNys42eOHM&index=3

Following this series on postmodernism.  It seems directly on point with what is happening today.