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« Reply #1035 on: February 26, 2020, 06:55:36 am »
Tell them you can't afford to be out that long.

Also, if you make a statement during the vetting, indicating that you are very bleeding heart the crown will take you out, I think.

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« Reply #1036 on: February 26, 2020, 10:23:48 am »
I've been summoned for jury duty. The letter says the trial is expected to take 12 weeks. How much crime do you have to commit for the trial to take 12 weeks? Is this like a **** biker gang trial?  Mass murderer? I'm guessing a 12 week trial must be something pretty big.  I have to get out of this. I'm worried about what this might do to my employer and my employment situation. It's not like I'm working at Superstore-- we're a small business and we don't have a bunch of extra staff who can just come in and pick up what I do. 12 weeks might mean they have to hire a replacement for me and train them, which isn't a small burden for a company our size.  This is stressing me out.  This really sucks.

Yes, Jury duty sucks. While you are obligated to serve, it is worth pleading why it would be difficult in your situation. They sometimes offer a deferment if there is something that you have that conflicts (e.g. long planed prepaid vacation, wedding, etc.); but remember you will be called again. In your situation it appears there is a hardship that you and your employer will face that is beyond normal so it might be worth bringing that up. There are other ways people sometimes gets out of jury duty, but most of them are sleazy and the judge often can see through them if you are lying.

There are some people that are disqualified from serving by the nature of their employment (police officer, lawyer, trustee in bankruptcy, employee of the Ministry of Attorney General, etc.), or if they have been convicted of certain criminal offenses. Some people can get exemptions for medical reasons, if they are a full-time student, limited understanding of English (or French), etc. I am assuming none of these apply in your case.

If you just received your first letter, my guess is you have not been selected for a trial but are at the panel stage. Did the letter actually state trial? A jury panel is essentially a pool of potential jurors, and you must attend a few selection processes over the 12 weeks or whatever they stated. It is during these selection processes that your name may be drawn from a hat to be challenged by the crown or defense attorney. Most criminal trials do not last 12 weeks, typical is less than a week to maybe a couple of weeks.

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« Reply #1037 on: February 26, 2020, 10:32:13 am »
Had a delightful Valentine's Day with my sweetie. It was actually Valentine's Weekend, because with the Family Day holiday, it turned into a 3 day celebration.

I am worried that her new work is not going as well as she wants me to think it is. She has taken a part time job waitressing to make extra money, which means I see less of her and I'm worried about her financial situation and whether she's struggling.


I've been summoned for jury duty. The letter says the trial is expected to take 12 weeks. How much crime do you have to commit for the trial to take 12 weeks? Is this like a **** biker gang trial?  Mass murderer? I'm guessing a 12 week trial must be something pretty big.  I have to get out of this. I'm worried about what this might do to my employer and my employment situation. It's not like I'm working at Superstore-- we're a small business and we don't have a bunch of extra staff who can just come in and pick up what I do. 12 weeks might mean they have to hire a replacement for me and train them, which isn't a small burden for a company our size.  This is stressing me out.  This really sucks.


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« Reply #1038 on: February 26, 2020, 10:37:54 am »
Could it be this one?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/260914/Date-set-in-murder-trial

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The trial of three men accused of killing a 20-year old man and leaving his body on a forestry road near the Coquihalla Highway has been set for next summer.

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« Reply #1039 on: February 26, 2020, 10:55:38 am »
Could it be this one?

That might be one of the sleazy excuses I was alluding to earlier. If it is indeed that trial, then you could read up on all the particulars in the case and form an opinion beforehand. Make it clear during the selection process you know about the case, and say things like are those the three sleeze buckets that killed that poor boy in the forest. The defense will certainly challenge you on that, and you might get out of the trial. The judge however might see through a premeditated scheme on your part and charge you. In many cases you will not be given the opportunity to express anything, and the attorneys will accept you without any questions.

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« Reply #1040 on: February 27, 2020, 11:21:16 am »
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.
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« Reply #1041 on: February 27, 2020, 01:57:19 pm »
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.

You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.

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« Reply #1042 on: February 27, 2020, 09:22:50 pm »
You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.


So if you are over 65 in BC you won't get a jury of your peers.
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« Reply #1043 on: February 27, 2020, 10:01:19 pm »
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.

Us under-65'ers have deemed you old spunkers senile racialist gayphobes.
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« Reply #1044 on: February 28, 2020, 01:36:09 am »
You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.

"A jury of your peers" doesn't mean people of your specific demographic profile.  A woman doesn't get an all female jury, a Muslim doesn't get an all-Muslim jury, or anything like that.  A career criminal doesn't get a jury of other career criminals.   Your peers are your equals-- other free citizens of Canada.

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« Reply #1045 on: February 28, 2020, 09:04:47 am »
Us under-65'ers have deemed you old spunkers senile racialist gayphobes.

There seems to be an upside to everything. So get in there and do your duty you lazy progressive pups.
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« Reply #1046 on: February 28, 2020, 02:40:27 pm »
"A jury of your peers" doesn't mean people of your specific demographic profile.  A woman doesn't get an all female jury, a Muslim doesn't get an all-Muslim jury, or anything like that.  A career criminal doesn't get a jury of other career criminals.   Your peers are your equals-- other free citizens of Canada.

Slight correction, a random sampling of other free citizens. If you only get old farts, then they are not your peers, they are a special interest group (in your words: specific demographic profile) just like the others you listed.

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« Reply #1047 on: February 29, 2020, 07:03:37 pm »
Slight correction, a random sampling of other free citizens. If you only get old farts, then they are not your peers, they are a special interest group (in your words: specific demographic profile) just like the others you listed.

Shouldn't a jury reflect a cross section of society, including different age groups? I'm not complaining about not having to serve, but I wouldn't try to avoid it either. Could be very interesting.
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Re: Personal Stuff
« Reply #1048 on: February 29, 2020, 10:20:19 pm »
Do old people become farts once they start to smell bad?
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« Reply #1049 on: March 01, 2020, 07:58:20 am »
Do old people become farts once they start to smell bad?

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