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Offline wilber

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« Reply #300 on: October 18, 2018, 12:11:47 pm »

But you're an airline pilot, so you're much cooler than normal "old economy" guys. :)

Something about the whole interaction just felt very strange and off-putting.


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I've never been accused of being cool before but I kind of like it. ;D


I've never had an office job so I can't relate. Before I flew em I fixed em and in a predominately male world so good natured ribbing and practical jokes were an enjoyable part of the job. With larger companies I spent my life working with different people every day but we still had to work as a team doing things exactly the same way, basically as interchangeable parts of a bigger machine. Any relationships with fellow workers were pretty superficial unless they were pursued outside of the job.

I would find it a strange way for for a fellow worker to act unless it was part of a relationship we had developed over time. Throwing insults back and forth can be a lot of fun but that is something you do with people you know and respect. It isn't mean spirited. My maintenance and smaller company days were a lot like that. Maybe you should fire the odd broadside back in a good humoured manner and see how he reacts.
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« Reply #301 on: October 18, 2018, 05:47:44 pm »
I don't think he was trying to hit on me or anything like that.  I just don't get where it was coming from.  Like, the dude is talking to me as if I'm a school age child, so that's somewhat insulting already.    Is he just making light of me being much younger than most of the others in the office?  Is there something more sinister? Is he picturing me in a little plaid skirt? Is he imagining telling me to stay after school for a "special detention"?   I really don't know.  I'm just not sure what to make of this.

30 is a lot. If he didn't have kids, maybe he was trying to figure a way to relate to you? When I was working, I was in an office with a lot of girls, most of whom were twenty years younger than I was. There's an old philosophy of male/female interaction which says men can treat women in one of three ways; potential dating material, maternal types (older women, aunts, mothers) or sisters. I chose the last for obvious reasons. And several of the women I met back then, going on eighteen years ago, are still kind of like my sisters. But in most cases it was me who interacted with them initially. In at least two cases, they thought I was weird at first (they have since confessed). They weren't really used to interacting with people my age either, except as parental figures, teachers or bosses.  And they sort of expected me to act very stern, and official and businesslike, rather than joking around or teasing them.
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« Reply #302 on: October 18, 2018, 05:51:40 pm »
I would find it a strange way for for a fellow worker to act unless it was part of a relationship we had developed over time. Throwing insults back and forth can be a lot of fun but that is something you do with people you know and respect. It isn't mean spirited. My maintenance and smaller company days were a lot like that. Maybe you should fire the odd broadside back in a good humoured manner and see how he reacts.

Depends on the atmosphere. I remember sitting in on some job interviews where I asked people how they felt about having a double fistful of elastic bands tossed over their cubicle wall onto their heads just to see their reaction. We were that kind of office.
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« Reply #303 on: October 18, 2018, 05:56:36 pm »
So ankles can support a lot of weight but they don't like being shifted into odd positions. Not sure if mine is sprained or broken, but I'm leaning to the former. The vote is 4-1 for sprained (was 4-2 but I convinced one), but the remaining 1 is a cautious type. And it's easy for her to say 'you should go to ER and have that X-rayed'. She doesn't have to spend hours in a waiting room.

Had to crawl back to the porch, despite someone there who tried to help me stand, then hop up the stairs.  Now icing it and have a compression bandage and hoping I an avoid doctors.

I really wish I had a robot body, though.
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« Reply #304 on: October 18, 2018, 06:13:19 pm »
Not sure if mine is sprained or broken

If it hurts to touch, is the pain in the soft part or the bone?
Did you hear anything when you hurt it?
Other than swelling, do you see any other misshaping of your ankle?
Is there any numbness or tingling, or just pain?

Hopefully it is a sprain, to avoid the hospital visit.


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« Reply #305 on: October 18, 2018, 06:31:45 pm »
I had a severe penile laceration and a sprained wrist this summer. Guess which one hurt more.
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« Reply #306 on: October 18, 2018, 06:44:19 pm »
If it hurts to touch, is the pain in the soft part or the bone?
Did you hear anything when you hurt it?
Other than swelling, do you see any other misshaping of your ankle?
Is there any numbness or tingling, or just pain?

Hopefully it is a sprain, to avoid the hospital visit.

No, it doesn't hurt to touch. Anywhere. No numbness or tingling, and as long as I don't move it around too much ... I can move it around, and wiggle my toes. And now, after several hours, I can (gingerly) put weight on that foot, and even stand and limp - a bit. Yeah I  did hear a crackling at the time, which is not a good sign. But I don't think I'd be able to put my weight on it at all if it was broken.

There no urgent care clinics anywhere near us, and no walk-in clinics (thanks government!). So anything remotely urgent means going downtown, or near enough downtown, to the hospital. Another reason to be unimpressed by our health care system.

The irony is there is a privately operated X-ray clinic two blocks away. But you have to get a doctor's order to use it so I'll have to make an appointment, drive half an hour (or be driven) to my doctor, for a piece of paper I can then come home with and take to the clinic. I hate inefficiency like that.
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« Reply #307 on: October 18, 2018, 06:58:29 pm »
Yeah I  did hear a crackling at the time, which is not a good sign.

Tendons and ligaments can also make noise when stressed, but generally you are right that it is not a good sign.

I thought Ottawa would have good walk-in clinics. The last time I lived in a larger center in Ontario, we had a very good walk-in clinic a few blocks away that had x-ray on the premises. My current rural Ontario address does send me 60+km to the hospital, so the last time I had anything I self diagnosed and prescribed over the counter polysporin for an eye infection. Haven't had any need at my Montreal address since I moved here part time about 4 years ago.

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« Reply #308 on: October 18, 2018, 07:16:47 pm »
Tendons and ligaments can also make noise when stressed, but generally you are right that it is not a good sign.

That's what almost convinced me to go. If I hadn't tested and found that my foot would now bear my weight without much pain I would have gone in - and still be sitting in the waiting room now.

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I thought Ottawa would have good walk-in clinics.

It used to. I used to use them all the time. You could go into one and usually not wait more than 15 minutes. The one near where I used to live was also upstairs from an x-ray clinic and lab. Sometime after I got my own doctor things started going downhill. Now almost all the clinics require that you make an appointment, and most require you be a patient of one of the doctors on staff. There are a couple of clinics very close to me, but when I called, after moving down here I was told they weren't for walk-ins, and weren't taking new patients and their wait-list was full. Should they even call themselves clinics then? There are also almost no outcall services, so forget about getting a doctor to your house, even if you want to pay.

The after-hours clinic my doctor's office referred me to is on the other side of the city, an hour or more away.

By comparison, several dental clinics have opened up nearby (it's a growing area). All are taking new patients. It's never hard getting a dental appointment or finding someone to do dental surgery fairly quickly.

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« Reply #309 on: October 18, 2018, 07:43:22 pm »
They had me out of the waiting room and in a doctor's office in literally less than a minute. I had a morphine drip, a very sympathetic nurse, and a doctor within 20 minutes, and a Russian urologist was brought in in less than 2 hours to make me whole again. I don't think he came all the way from Russia though. Altogether it was a very efficient, professional system. My sprained wrist still hurts like a **** though. There's nothing you can do about that but suck it up and heal.

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« Reply #310 on: October 18, 2018, 08:20:39 pm »

I have been feeling like the ousider... he's known many of my co-workers for ages, and I have been feeling insecure all over again.  It hadn't occurred to me that maybe he's feeling insecure as well.
 

Everything you write about him... he's telling jokes and acting weird... sounds like he is needy.  I don't see him so I am basing it on the facts I read here only.

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« Reply #311 on: October 18, 2018, 08:21:43 pm »
I am curious so I looked agile workspaces up.   This article provided a broad overview of pros and cons. https://www.zenefits.com/blog/agile-workspace-small-businesses/

 An article from Harvard Business Review about how to foster employee enthusiasm for the type of workspace.  From your comments so far, it sounds like your company could have done better.
https://hbr.org/2018/01/sgc-research-when-moving-to-an-open-office-plan-pay-attention-to-how-your-employees-feel

It's on another thread but I will look at this.  'Agile Work Space' isn't a thing though. 

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« Reply #312 on: October 18, 2018, 08:24:10 pm »
Get Well SJArgus....

Don't take advantage of your time off to out-post me on here... although my work busy time and coming baby busy time mean forum time is dwindling.

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« Reply #313 on: October 18, 2018, 08:24:46 pm »
Maybe the irony is that my time on forums will wind down with me voting for a conservative for the first time ever...  ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #314 on: October 19, 2018, 12:21:25 am »
Depends on the atmosphere. I remember sitting in on some job interviews where I asked people how they felt about having a double fistful of elastic bands tossed over their cubicle wall onto their heads just to see their reaction. We were that kind of office.

Sounds like a company where I might want to work.
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