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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Oscars 2018: anybody give a crap?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 11:11:48 am »
Seek help. Even a thread about the Oscars gets you frothing st the mouth about SJWs.

Boy it really burns you that people who have different opinions are allowed to express them, doesn't it.   ;D
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 11:15:17 am »
It's not like the best pictures get nominated or win, but this push to somehow be popular AND artsy is baffling.  It's like pro sports that fiddle with the rules to increase their viewership.  It makes something that's canned and fake even faker.

There's a stupid, snobby disdain for popularity, the kind of sneering refrain you find for rockers who 'sell out'. What the fuck is the point of making movies anyway except to entertain people?  "Oh, my film is not to entertain, but to enlighten and to provoke thought about the grave injustices and ..." And fuck you. I don't need you to make a movie to preach at me about how YOU think the world should be, not unless it's a damn good movie, like say Mississippi Burning, which also entertains. If I'm going to pay to watch the thing it better be entertaining or I'm not going. I can go to church if I want to get lectured and harangued - and guess what I don't go to church!
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 12:35:38 pm »
Boy it really burns you that people who have different opinions are allowed to express them, doesn't it.   ;D
I don't need you to make a movie to preach at me about how YOU think the world should be. . .

Whos burned by differing opinions? lol

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 01:36:14 pm »
There's a stupid, snobby disdain for popularity, the kind of sneering refrain you find for rockers who 'sell out'. What the fuck is the point of making movies anyway except to entertain people?

People make movies for different reasons.  If you don't understand the difference between popular and excellent don't get mad at me and call me stupid or snobby.  There are plenty of 'art' pictures I don't like or get and plenty of trash I love.

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"Oh, my film is not to entertain, but to enlighten and to provoke thought about the grave injustices and ..." And fuck you. I don't need you to make a movie to preach at me about how YOU think the world should be, not unless it's a damn good movie, like say Mississippi Burning, which also entertains.

Yeah, that one is 'ok'.  Jeez, man, you will blow a gasket...

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If I'm going to pay to watch the thing it better be entertaining or I'm not going. I can go to church if I want to get lectured and harangued - and guess what I don't go to church!

Lots of popular movies are preachy - like Mississippi Burning - and lots of art movies aren't. 

You SHOULD go to church.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 01:37:37 pm »
Speaking of snobs, I am tired of people telling me that the reason I like a certain kind of movie is because I'm snobby.   I'm pretty conventional in my tastes, but everybody craves something different once in awhile.

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2018, 01:38:59 pm »
If you like the Shape of Water, you're a snob.  :P

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2018, 01:41:41 pm »
If you like the Shape of Water, you're a snob.  :P

Well I hated it.  Fish sex.  Bleah.

On the other hand, I liked a few of the directors' other films.  One was a cool horror flick and another was striaght-up imaginative.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2018, 03:28:39 pm »
Well I hated it.  Fish sex.  Bleah.

On the other hand, I liked a few of the directors' other films.  One was a cool horror flick and another was striaght-up imaginative.
Which one is which...?

Cool horror flick: Cronos or Pans Labyrinth?
Imaginative: Crimson Peak?

Hes been working with one of the greatest game designers of our time, Hideo Kojima, on a project and the trailers have been outstanding.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2018, 03:39:28 pm »
Whos burned by differing opinions? lol

People can have different opinions than me but if they think I'm gonna pay them to be entertained only to have them lecture me, they're idiots.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2018, 06:00:43 pm »
Which one is which...?

Cool horror flick: Cronos or Pans Labyrinth?
Imaginative: Crimson Peak?

Hes been working with one of the greatest game designers of our time, Hideo Kojima, on a project and the trailers have been outstanding.

Devil's Backbone - I think - and Pan's Labyrinth.

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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2018, 06:01:56 pm »
People can have different opinions than me but if they think I'm gonna pay them to be entertained only to have them lecture me, they're idiots.

You're missing out on a lot.  If I listened to that advice, I would have missed out of some great flicks, such as Dirty Harry and Red Dawn.

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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2018, 06:13:03 pm »
People make movies for different reasons.  If you don't understand the difference between popular and excellent don't get mad at me and call me stupid or snobby.  There are plenty of 'art' pictures I don't like or get and plenty of trash I love.
Popular is a fact. 'Excellent' and 'Trash' is a value judgement. Personal taste is personal taste and the world would be a pretty boring place if everyone liked exactly the same stuff I like. That said, the tendency of many to describe popular movies as 'trash' because they lack the intellectual stimulation they like *is* snobbish. You could have used other words to express your point that would not have been so ironic due to lack of self awareness.

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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 06:19:37 pm »
You're missing out on a lot.  If I listened to that advice, I would have missed out of some great flicks, such as Dirty Harry and Red Dawn.

Is that meant to be ironic? I saw both of them. I liked Dirty Harry. Red Dawn was moronic.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 06:22:33 pm »
Popular is a fact. 'Excellent' and 'Trash' is a value judgement. Personal taste is personal taste and the world would be a pretty boring place if everyone liked exactly the same stuff I like. That said, the tendency of many to describe popular movies as 'trash' because they lack the intellectual stimulation they like *is* snobbish.

Calling things "Trash" is only snobbery if you don't like or love trash.  I have never watched Sharknado but I might.  It is pretty plain wrapper 'trash'.   

Also - although it's easier to count box-office receipts, Rotten Tomato ratings and so on, there is no denying the permanence of some cultural icons, nor the appeal of certain artifacts.

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You could have used other words to express your point that would not have been so ironic due to lack of self awareness.

What words ?  "Trash" ?  It's a term of endearment, and I am guessing you didn't know that and maybe didn't believe me.

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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 06:23:29 pm »
Is that meant to be ironic? I saw both of them. I liked Dirty Harry. Red Dawn was moronic.

Red Dawn wasn't the greatest but if you gave up the flawed premise there was a good flick in there.  If I only watched liberal movies I would have missed out ... is the point.