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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2018, 12:03:10 pm »
It is now officially Panic Button Time in both Winnipeg and Washington!    The Jets have lost 3 games in a row to the Golden Knights, and are now on the brink of elimination.  Game 5 in Winnipeg could be their last if they don't get it in gear.    As for the Capitals, they started off with two convincing wins in Tampa, but the Lightning have roared back and won both games in Washington to regain home ice advantage.  The Lightning have all the momentum right now as the series returns to Tampa Bay today.

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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2018, 10:25:34 pm »
And it is all over for Winnipeg. :(   It was an exciting run while it lasted.

It is absurd to me that an expansion team built from players that other teams felt were expendable is now going to the Stanley Cup finals.

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Sweden has defeated Switzerland to repeat as champions of the International Ice Hockey Federation tournament.  Sweden went undefeated, 10-0 at the tournament. They were bolstered by a group of players from the Nashville Predators who joined the team after the Predators were eliminated by Winnipeg.  They were pretty much unstoppable.  Sweden winning the tournament isn't a huge shocker. What is a huge shocker is Canada being beaten by Switzerland in the semi-final.

Canada faced the USA in the bronze medal game, and lost 4-1. Sad.

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2018, 01:00:43 pm »
I expect changes in the next expansion draft. Teams had to leave more players unprotected when Vegas entered the league than in any previous expansion. Give credit to Vegas management but it looks like the league over did it, considering that their whole team was made up of existing NHL players and none of their new drafts.
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2018, 01:19:12 pm »
I expect changes in the next expansion draft. Teams had to leave more players unprotected when Vegas entered the league than in any previous expansion. Give credit to Vegas management but it looks like the league over did it, considering that their whole team was made up of existing NHL players and none of their new drafts.

They canít change it for Seattle.  Seattle paid the same expansion fee (more?) and expect the rules to be the same.  Thereís no way the NHL could pull the rug out from them like that.

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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2018, 09:59:30 pm »
Gary Bettman is a disgrace, allowing an expansion team to have such an advantage.

If this was the only way to garner a following in Vegas then why bother.

It's a slap in the face of fans over other teams that have never seen their teams this close to a title only to see the league gift one to Vegas.

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2018, 10:13:00 pm »
They canít change it for Seattle.  Seattle paid the same expansion fee (more?) and expect the rules to be the same.  Thereís no way the NHL could pull the rug out from them like that.

There must be some very pissed off owners out there and Bettman works for them. Interesting times.
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2018, 08:33:48 am »
Gary Bettman is a disgrace, allowing an expansion team to have such an advantage.

If this was the only way to garner a following in Vegas then why bother.

It's a slap in the face of fans over other teams that have never seen their teams this close to a title only to see the league gift one to Vegas.

I don't think there was a plot to turn the Knights into an instant hockey superpower.  It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time.  I watched the expansion draft, and I recall analysts looking at the roster after it was done and saying "this is a team with some good defencemen and some scrappy veterans and some serviceable NHLers who'll play hard every night, but they'll struggle to score, and Marc Andre Fleury will be able to steal them some games, but that's about it."  Nobody anticipated William Karlsson turning into a top scorer out of nowhere.

When the topic of expansion comes up, a lot of people say "baaah there isn't enough talent in the league as it is, they should be contracting teams, not expanding them."  But they've built a very competitive team just by taking an expendable player from each team, so it seems like there's actually lots of NHL-ready depth that wasn't being used to full extent by other teams.

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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2018, 08:37:47 am »
Last night's game in Washington was pretty great.  It has been quite a while since I have seen a hockey team dominate a game the way the Capitals did in the 2nd period.  That was truly impressive to watch... but they only got one goal out of it and that didn't seem like nearly enough.    It set up a thrilling third, when the Lightning fought back and were getting scoring chances, but Holtby played great to stop everything.  A real thriller to force game 7.

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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2018, 09:27:27 am »
  It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time.

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They were given 200 to 1 odds against winning the cup.  Everyone thought they would be terrible.


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« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2018, 08:56:15 am »
Awesome performance by the Washington Capitals in these last two games, to fend off elimination and win the series.  This was a really great series.

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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2018, 11:15:26 am »
I don't think there was a plot to turn the Knights into an instant hockey superpower.  It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time.  I watched the expansion draft, and I recall analysts looking at the roster after it was done and saying "this is a team with some good defencemen and some scrappy veterans and some serviceable NHLers who'll play hard every night, but they'll struggle to score, and Marc Andre Fleury will be able to steal them some games, but that's about it."  Nobody anticipated William Karlsson turning into a top scorer out of nowhere.

When the topic of expansion comes up, a lot of people say "baaah there isn't enough talent in the league as it is, they should be contracting teams, not expanding them."  But they've built a very competitive team just by taking an expendable player from each team, so it seems like there's actually lots of NHL-ready depth that wasn't being used to full extent by other teams.

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It's the fact that there was expansion in the first place with so many markets struggling to draw flies. The only way this market could succeed is if the team was good.

I resent everything that Gary Bettman stands for.

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« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2018, 12:19:12 pm »
He also did change the rules to make it better for expansion teams.

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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2018, 11:06:38 pm »
The finals lacked the drama and the high calibre of play of the Capitals vs Lightning series, but they have wrapped up with the result that I think that just about everybody was hoping for.   The Washington Capitals have defeated the Las Vegas Golden Knights in 5 games to win the Stanley Cup.

Even though I was not emotionally invested in either of these teams, I have always liked Alex Ovechkin for his skill, his style of play, and his exuberance. I think many fans around the NHL feel the same. It was nice to finally see him shake off the label that he can't get it done when it matters. After all those years of playoff disappointments, the Capitals finally delivered. I was genuinely happy seeing the celebration. It felt good-- it was like seeing Charlie Brown finally kick the football.

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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2018, 11:54:05 pm »
I wonder if all hell would have broke loose if Las Vegas won.

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« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2018, 07:53:33 am »
The Crapitals win.  Probably the lowest ratings in Canada and good ribbons.