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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2018, 09:56:55 pm »
I have some records by these guys... what is their story ?

I didn't know they sold any records in Canada.  They were a local band when I was growing up so I saw them a few times and bought a couple of albums when I had the cash.  (still got them, I think)  I don't think they were around for more than a few years in the seventies.  Last I heard of Bill Nelson he was a guitar teacher.

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2018, 07:52:23 am »
They get a bit of play on Sirius XM.  That's where I heard 'em.

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2018, 06:21:49 am »


@MoonlightGraham asked for some Meat Puppets

They were Arizona punks but also into the Dead, Beefheart...

This album had them break into actual musicians



The next album was a ZZ Top Tribute... "Huevos" even sounded like a ZZT Album



They are most famous as a primary influence to Nirvana and planed 2 songs with them in their famous MTV Unplugged Concert



Sadly Kurt is near the end there...
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2018, 04:08:01 pm »
I find pre-grunge 80's alternative rock fascinating, as that kind of stuff was never mainstream until Smells like Teen Spirit.  I've never heard of so many of those bands because the 80's were a very odd time in rock.  It's like we're going through another 80's period now & waiting for the next Nirvana to blow Imagine Dragons off the radio.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2018, 07:52:33 pm »
I was a radio DJ at that time and dove into it at length.

I'm glad to provide you the shining lights and hidden gems.

American 'College Rock' became 'Grunge' and then 'Alternative' in the 1990s.  But it started with on-campus American bands defying the British synth-rock and fashion icons of the era, and rediscovering drums, bass, guitar....

REM's Radio Free Europe isn't my favourite of theirs but here's the indy single that started them off as the Beatles of 80s college rock:



They got noticed because of jangly guitars, so their first EP got even janglier.  This, to me, resonated as a group that listened to The Byrds:



Gardening at Night - from the Chronic Town EP.

They continued to grow and signed to IRS (The Police's family label, considered a major label) and grew from album to album.  They became very well known in a certain demographic - young, educated - but couldn't break through.  They started to look like a new link in the American roots music



Pretty Persuasion, from their 2nd album Reckoning.   



And - when it was not cool at all - COUNTRY !  "Don't Go Back to Rockville"

The next album Fabes of the Reconstruction disappointed, as it had pretty much the same sound...   They couldn't break through using the same sound, so they put the singer higher in the mix and made the guitars more bombastic.  Eventually their record deal ran out, and Warner Brothers signed them and made them global stars with 'losin my religion and so on'...

But there were dozens and hundreds of cool bands... some with incredible sounds, and lyrics that were never copied but didn't go anywhere....
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2018, 08:00:12 pm »
One of the lost gems I loved in the 1980s was 'X', which came oddly out of the same LA Scene that gave us Henry Rollins via Black Flag, and ... uh ... the GoGos.
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They were punks fronted by a hard lady poet with a painful wail... who looked at 1980s LA and saw it was the same LA since the Doors wrote about it.  In fact a Door produced their records.



Under the Big Black Song.  I think I read that this was about someone (maybe the singer's sister) who was discovered to have been having an affair after she was killed in a car crash.  Damn. 

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2018, 08:02:46 pm »
The Violent Femmes are fairly well known now but a true oddity in that all of their best known songs were on their first album, and became cult hits after a decade or more.

My favourite is, I think, the opener of their lesser known 2nd album.



'Country Death Song'.

I heard this on CBC in the early 1980s, on a new music show that was playing things like The Cure and New Order.  Then this... which could have been played in a bar in the 19th century. 

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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2018, 08:21:42 pm »
Doctors of Madness and SAHB.  I had all their autographs...  (Warning - second one contains nudity)




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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2018, 08:44:11 pm »
Thanks Mikey, i'll check this stuff out when i have more time.  Never really heard the early REM stuff, interesting so far, big fan of their post-mainstream success stuff like most.

As a fan of grunge & post-grunge "alternative" like most (Kurt Cobain is in my avatar btw.  i've heard them talk about their influences from the 80's, so I've dove a bit into those bands they mention like Pixies, Huster Du, etc.

I was more of a post-grunge guy.  I wasn't a big fan of Nirvana or grunge in the 90's, but i've recently started getting into them all, ie: Alice In Chains, early Stone Temple Pilots. Cobain and Layne Stanley had such a piercing edge to their voices.   I recently picked up the early STP album "Core" (1992), great stuff.  If you add Chris Cornell of Soundgarden, those 4 lead singers are all dead now from suicide and/or horrible drug abuse.

I remember when grunge came out, those songs were so depressing, the teens I knew who were into grunge were all so depressed & emotionally disturbed, they all seemed like John Connor from Terminator 2...problems at home for many of them i think, divorced parents and such. It was a weird time and culture to be alive in.  Those 4 singers were like our collective depressed angst young men and they all payed for our entertainment with their lives.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2018, 08:53:23 pm »
It's amazing the influence 70's punk had.  NWOBHM, 80's thrash metal, Nirvana et. al., all had huge punk influences.  Then it just got really commercial again when grunge exploded.  Then Napster came, and labels panicked so everyone started sounding like Nickelback and turned people off, and indie rock tried it's best as a last desperate gasp, and then commercial rock died LOL.  Now it's mostly nostalgia acts who sell out arenas  :(

It's cool that punk exploded to reject the excesses of 70's rock, and then grunge exploded to reject to excesses of 80's glam rock/metal etc
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2018, 09:17:30 pm »
Doctors of Madness and SAHB.  I had all their autographs...  (Warning - second one contains nudity)





Seems obscure !  Good, I'll google

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2018, 09:22:31 pm »
Thanks Mikey, i'll check this stuff out when i have more time.  Never really heard the early REM stuff, interesting so far, big fan of their post-mainstream success stuff like most.

As a fan of grunge & post-grunge "alternative" like most (Kurt Cobain is in my avatar btw.  i've heard them talk about their influences from the 80's, so I've dove a bit into those bands they mention like Pixies, Huster Du, etc.

I was more of a post-grunge guy.  I wasn't a big fan of Nirvana or grunge in the 90's, but i've recently started getting into them all, ie: Alice In Chains, early Stone Temple Pilots. Cobain and Layne Stanley had such a piercing edge to their voices.   I recently picked up the early STP album "Core" (1992), great stuff.  If you add Chris Cornell of Soundgarden, those 4 lead singers are all dead now from suicide and/or horrible drug abuse.

I remember when grunge came out, those songs were so depressing, the teens I knew who were into grunge were all so depressed & emotionally disturbed, they all seemed like John Connor from Terminator 2...problems at home for many of them i think, divorced parents and such. It was a weird time and culture to be alive in.  Those 4 singers were like our collective depressed angst young men and they all payed for our entertainment with their lives.

Interesting.  I was well aware that the big 90s grunge or sort-of-grunge bands - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were ones I liked ok, but I did feel that unlike the 60s bands, their influences never got their due. 

Hüsker Dü and Dinosaur Jr. were a few that didn't reap riches for their influence.  Also The Replacements.

And the thing was these bands all sounded vastly different from each other.  They were 'indie' which meant they connected directly with their audiences who loved them all in their own way, as they were amazing.

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2018, 09:26:23 pm »
It's amazing the influence 70's punk had.  NWOBHM, 80's thrash metal, Nirvana et. al., all had huge punk influences.  Then it just got really commercial again when grunge exploded.  Then Napster came, and labels panicked so everyone started sounding like Nickelback and turned people off, and indie rock tried it's best as a last desperate gasp, and then commercial rock died LOL.  Now it's mostly nostalgia acts who sell out arenas  :(

Punk was the ultimate indie movement and it could only happen in a repressive society like Britain's.  It was a global art movement like no other.

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It's cool that punk exploded to reject the excesses of 70's rock, and then grunge exploded to reject to excesses of 80's glam rock/metal etc

It all follows from what came before, and does a dance with popular tastes and social movements... Jazz had something similar.  The Ken Burns program captures how BeBop became a specialist intellectual pursuit and a 'statement' as a reaction to the warmth and humanity of the older swing groups.  It's all these little ricochets...

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2018, 09:29:55 pm »
Seems obscure !  Good, I'll google

SAHB !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Harvey_(musician)

I can't listen to music now, as it's quiet time at my house.  But... a glam rocker born in 1935 !  He could almost have been a WW2 veteran !

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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2018, 09:44:36 pm »
Punk was the ultimate indie movement and it could only happen in a repressive society like Britain's.  It was a global art movement like no other.

Yes.  Punk is rock n roll stripped to its purest form.  Even early rock like Elvis and Chuck Berry was very commercial and driven to sell records.  Punk is (ideally) completely not commercial.

Metallica was greatly influenced by punk.  They wore their street clothes on stage.  They refused to make a music video for their first 3 albums because they thought MTV sucked & didn't want to sell out, but once they made their first video they quickly got nominated for a grammy, performed the same song during those grammy's, and exploded in popularity and became one of the most commercial bands of all-time.  How ironic.
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