1. Ignoring bad ideas doesn't make them go away. If you want evidence of that, you need only look at the rise of the anti-vax movement, or the MAGA movement, or the rise of the alt-right in general, or the return of the Flat Earthers, to name a few.
2. This notion that sexual orientation is actually a "gender preference" that can be unlearned has become widespread among the gender theory people, and they're apparently too dense to see that they're spouting the same discredited nonsense that conversion therapy advocates claim.
3. And there's the question of how do we decide who we call a "radical". Is Rachel V McKinnon a radical? She's among those who feel "cisgender" lesbians need to "get over their genital hangups", and she's treated as a legitimate trans advocate by mainstream media outlets like the CBC. If the supposedly "for lesbians by lesbians" websites that endorsed the "Not in Our Name" letter publish think-pieces by transbians chiding "cisgender" lesbians to reexamine their genital preferences, is it still a radical viewpoint? Riley J Dennis is a popular transbian Youtube personality who has been pushing this notion for a long time. Arielle Scarcella is a popular lesbian Youtube personality who has received a ton of abuse for pushing back against the idea that sexual orientation is just a gender preference that can be overcome-- the sheer volume of criticism against her indicates that a lot of people are mad at her for pushing back against it.
4. Unlike ISIS and violent extremists in Islam, this notion does actually have some amount of traction on Main Street. You're more likely to get hit by lightning or win the lottery than to be hurt by a Muslim extremist. But if you're a lesbian in a lesbian space (or cyber space, or dating app) you're very likely to get approached by sex by a "transbian" who probably feels it's your moral responsibility to "overcome your genital fetish". I have heard these stories over and over again from gay women who were trans-friendly and trans-supportive until they had these kinds of experiences in the real world.
My post is going to be about advancing your ideas of framing.
1. Flat earth arguably gained traction when people started talking about it as the joke that it is, though. But I am thinking about knowledge differently now and the 'catchiness' of a meme is something we can't stop I suppose.
2. So there was a bad idea that some people know about.. and now *I* know about it because the people who want to turn that idea down argued about it in channels like this, or it made it to the Sun (for angertainment reasons) for white cis male consumption. Ok.
3. Good question. Why don't you try answering it ? Is it fringe ideas that make radicals, or radicals making fringe ideas ? Where do these people belong in the topology of public dialogue ?
4. Quantification is still a great go-to for objective knowledge. The last time we discussed hard numbers on this you produced a study (good) with a bad methodology (bad). I am truly interested in any data on this topic.
And as much as you are impacted by this personally, I urge you to think about separating your personal feelings when you post about it. If you care about publicizing it, then objectivity will help you achieve this. You have convinced me there's something there but it's hard for me to read your posts when they're marbled with vitriol. Your feelings are valid, but you can actually make a difference to a minor degree if you dampen them in your arguments.
And yes, it doesn't matter, but what we post here doesn't really matter beyond being a reflection of ourselves.
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