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Re: JW's in the news again
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2018, 11:29:01 pm »
Hey, check out this disgusting chunk of ****:

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Reacting to the recent avalanche of reports of clerical sexual abuse around the world, a newly minted Mexican Cardinal has suggested that victims who accuse priests should be “ashamed” because they too have skeletons in their own closets.

Those who “accuse men of the Church should [be careful] because they have long tails that are easily stepped on,” said Cardinal Sergio Obeso Rivera according to a report in Crux. 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/francis-appointed-cardinal-sex-abuse-victims-should-be-ashamed-to-speak-the

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Re: JW's in the news again
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2018, 11:34:58 pm »
Poor people of the world should invade Vatican City and tear the whole damn town down and walk off with all the riches and sell them for food.  Jesus would smile.

**** the Catholic Church.
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« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2018, 09:09:46 am »
**** the Catholic Church.

Yeah, its too bad we still have religion in the world, but I believe most Catholics are decent people, even their clergy.  It is, as usual, the ones who have the power who screw it up for everyone else.

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« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2018, 12:15:49 pm »
Yeah, its too bad we still have religion in the world, but I believe most Catholics are decent people, even their clergy.  It is, as usual, the ones who have the power who screw it up for everyone else.

Sure...   they’re decent people...   who, when they find out this priest is raping children, continue to give money to the organization that helps the rapist and shames the victim. 

If I found out my badminton club was systematically raping children and covering it up, I would quit the club.

All these hundreds of millions of Catholics are enablers who should be ashamed to belong to such an organization.
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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2018, 10:36:41 am »
https://globalnews.ca/news/4482670/naked-kidnapping-alberta-police-monsters-armageddon/

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It says the group believed that the Great Tribulation had happened and Nov. 6 was Armageddon. So they rushed off to find safety and save a neighbouring family.

“Four who were naked were changing but they had to leave right away because it was unsafe, so they left without clothes,” the document says.

The neighbours — a man, his adult daughter and her six-week-old son — were forced out of their house and into the snow without shoes, the document says. The woman and her baby were put in the back seat with the teen girls, who were naked under a blanket. The man was put in the trunk and ordered to chant “Jehovah” ten times.

The group also chanted “Jehovah” as the SUV sped down roads and went through a red light on the way to nearby Nisku, says the document.

Because the trunk didn’t latch shut, the man was able to climb out when the vehicle slowed. His daughter, after getting her hand slammed in the door of the SUV, was able to get out with her baby. A passing truck stopped to help the trio and they climbed inside.

The document says the SUV then rammed the truck from behind and the woman and her baby were thrown into the truck’s dash, although they were not injured. The SUV then went into a ditch.

When Mounties arrived, the group continued to chant and refused to get out, at times clinging to the vehicle and each other. One of the teens believed the police “were monsters who would kill them,” says the document.
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Re: JW's in the news again
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2018, 01:42:47 pm »
https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html

It was also reported in court filings that Jehovah’s Witnesses didn’t deny the abuse happened, but claimed that Montana law exempted the elders from reporting “internal ecclesiastical proceedings on a congregation member’s serious sin.”

(This is untrue.  They are not exempt from reporting.)

The attorney for Jehovah’s Witnesses also said in her arguments, “The Constitution bars the court from contradicting a religious organization on issues of religious beliefs, including canon law, church doctrine and established church practice.”
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« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2018, 10:42:45 am »
Tonight on A&E.
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« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2018, 02:54:05 pm »
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6x5qum?fbclid=IwAR31pISSUPM1bbbEEx3TcbtL5K6c5pI_y_Af-e-24WB7J3dwNPPPDfzPaH0

That's a link to the entire show, if anyone is interested.  It was a 2 hour show.  Very accurate.  We noticed a couple of things that could be clarified further, but altogether very accurate.
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« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2018, 12:27:50 pm »
https://www.law.com/therecorder/sites/therecorder/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization/?cmp_share=share_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1BZhxBEcsIpowqZhO-gyLWDfGlOiouKod8nhASJcYxrq-yoIc7F7y5cg8&slreturn=20181111132318


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A California appellate court has upheld a $4-plus million judgment against Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc., the top organizational body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, in a case brought by a woman who alleges she was molested as a child by a church elder in 2006.

The ruling from the Fourth District Court of Appeal leaves in place terminating sanctions and a $4,016,152.39 judgment after Watchtower refused to hand over a trove of documents it received in response to a 1997 letter sent to Jehovah’s Witness congregations concerning known molesters in the church.

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Storey noted that he and his firm have litigated over the 1997 documents in two prior cases that have gone to the Court of Appeal and that highly redacted copies of some of the material have been handed over in a fourth case currently pending in Orange County.

“We litigate cases of sexual abuse all day, every day,” he said of his firm. “I’ve never had a defendant other than Watchtower tell a court point blank, ‘I won’t comply.’”

“Affirmatively understanding the order and saying ‘I’m not going to do it.’ … That’s not something I ever see.”
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Re: JW's in the news again
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2018, 03:11:13 pm »
There should be jail time for the church elders, lawyers, etc.
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« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2018, 10:12:49 am »
There should be jail time for the church elders, lawyers, etc.

There should be.  But until the justice system reverses its "hands off" policies on religion, there is little that can be done.  It's being challenged more and more in the courts, and some rulings (such as the one above) are showing a change in thinking - religious rights are not coming out on top as much as they used to.

The biggest way governments can curb the impact of cults is to revoke their charitable statuses.  Without that, most of them would be forced to shut down or would certainly have their power and influence greatly reduced.

The JW's do zero - as in NONE - charitable work.  They claim their door-to-door knocking is a "community service".  They operate no charities, no soup kitchens no shelters, no programs for single parents or poor families, there are no services or programs for children - children are expected to sit through all the adult stuff.  And in fact, JW's greatly discourage their members from donating to any causes because Armageddon is coming "soon" and God will take care of all that, so to them - charity is a waste of time and money.
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Re: JW's in the news again
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2019, 03:58:16 pm »
Should we disband the Boy Scouts organization ?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/us/boy-scouts-sexual-abuse-allegations/index.html

People seem to hate the Catholic Church for hiding their abuse of children, so I'm wondering if that's actually rooted in the crimes or something else.
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« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2019, 04:06:57 pm »
Should we disband the Boy Scouts organization ?

I don't think (most) people are suggesting disbanding the Catholic Church. I don't know how the Boy Scouts organization compares on a tax policy basis with the Catholic Church, but that would be a much better comparison.

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« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2019, 04:16:10 pm »
I don't think (most) people are suggesting disbanding the Catholic Church. I don't know how the Boy Scouts organization compares on a tax policy basis with the Catholic Church, but that would be a much better comparison.

I don't think either one is taxed, nor should be.  I seem to recall reading posts - perhaps just emotional outbursts - saying that they should disband the church.

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« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2019, 05:41:33 pm »
Should we disband the Boy Scouts organization ?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/us/boy-scouts-sexual-abuse-allegations/index.html

People seem to hate the Catholic Church for hiding their abuse of children, so I'm wondering if that's actually rooted in the crimes or something else.

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a list of volunteers and others that the Boy Scouts removed and banned from its organization over accusations of policy violations, including allegations of sexual abuse.

The Boy Scouts banned them from being members and participating when they found out.

The Catholic Church hid their molesters away from prosecution and being held responsible for molesting children.