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Offline SirJohn

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Is the future female?
« on: October 30, 2017, 09:47:14 am »
It's been noted for some time that the way schools teach has been altered to a more cooperative methodology with less competition, more friendly to how girls learn. This has helped girls but certainly not helped boys. Boys are doing progressively worse, and have higher dropout rates as well as a lower chance of going to college. And what happens when automation eliminates so many of the blue collar jobs these men have been drawn to, like truck driving and construction?

When it comes to education, males now only comprise 40 per cent of university students. StatCan says males are about 40 per cent more like to drop out of high school than females. In Canada, few school boards have initiatives focused on assisting males while most have specific programs dedicated to helping girls succeed academically, especially in the science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) fields.

For young men considering a career in the STEM fields, thereís more bad news. A 2015 study by Cornell University researchers Wendy Williams and Stephen Ceci, published by the National Academy of Sciences, showed there is now a significant hiring bias against men applying for university jobs in sciences.


http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/haskell-the-future-really-is-female-not-male-and-its-not-fair

The findings are unquestionably robust: Girls earn higher grades in every subject, including the science-related fields where boys are thought to surpass them.

Less of a secret is the gender disparity in college enrollment rates. The latest data from the Pew Research Center uses U.S. Census Bureau data to show that in 2012, 71 percent of female high school graduates went on to college, compared to 61 percent of their male counterparts. In 1994 the figures were 63 and 61 percent, respectively. In other words, college enrollment rates for young women are climbing while those of young men remain flat. This begs a sensitive question: Are schools set up to favor the way girls learn and trip up boys?




https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/09/why-girls-get-better-grades-than-boys-do/380318/
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Offline cybercoma

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 05:43:17 pm »
Donít worry, man. The proportion of women graduating from non-STEM programs is around 66%, but that proportion is 60% lower in STEM programs. Of those STEM graduates less than 1 in 4 engineering are women. Girls who have the highest mathematical abilities are far less likely to go into STEM programs than even boys with the lowest math skills.

So donít worry. Weíre nowhere near parity.

And those figures are from StatCan themselves, analyzing the 2011 long-form census. You know, the thing Conservatives keep trying to kill.

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/75-006-x/2013001/article/11874-eng.htm

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 05:44:28 pm »
Oh and these are undergrad programs. The proportion of women dim8nishes as you climb the ladder for degrees.

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 07:38:52 pm »
As the father of a couple of daughters I sure hope so. 

It would be fun to see if it were any better than the present, but I'll be dead.
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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 07:59:35 pm »
It's been noted for some time that the way schools teach has been altered to a more cooperative methodology with less competition, more friendly to how girls learn. This has helped girls but certainly not helped boys. Boys are doing progressively worse, and have higher dropout rates as well as a lower chance of going to college. And what happens when automation eliminates so many of the blue collar jobs these men have been drawn to, like truck driving and construction?

When it comes to education, males now only comprise 40 per cent of university students. StatCan says males are about 40 per cent more like to drop out of high school than females. In Canada, few school boards have initiatives focused on assisting males while most have specific programs dedicated to helping girls succeed academically, especially in the science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) fields.

For young men considering a career in the STEM fields, thereís more bad news. A 2015 study by Cornell University researchers Wendy Williams and Stephen Ceci, published by the National Academy of Sciences, showed there is now a significant hiring bias against men applying for university jobs in sciences.


http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/haskell-the-future-really-is-female-not-male-and-its-not-fair

The findings are unquestionably robust: Girls earn higher grades in every subject, including the science-related fields where boys are thought to surpass them.

Less of a secret is the gender disparity in college enrollment rates. The latest data from the Pew Research Center uses U.S. Census Bureau data to show that in 2012, 71 percent of female high school graduates went on to college, compared to 61 percent of their male counterparts. In 1994 the figures were 63 and 61 percent, respectively. In other words, college enrollment rates for young women are climbing while those of young men remain flat. This begs a sensitive question: Are schools set up to favor the way girls learn and trip up boys?




https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/09/why-girls-get-better-grades-than-boys-do/380318/

I thought you were done with your truck driving career.

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 12:07:53 pm »
Donít worry, man. The proportion of women graduating from non-STEM programs is around 66%, but that proportion is 60% lower in STEM programs.

And why is it of no concern that the male representation in all other programs is so much lower? Why is it of no concern that male graduation rates from high school are so much lower?

Why is it desperately important to increase the number of women graduating from STEM programs but of ZERO importance to increase the number of males graduating from non-STEM programs?
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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 09:47:42 pm »
What makes you think thereís zero interest? Iím guessing itís probably because youíre more interested in be8ng outraged than researching the problem to see if anything is being done. Thereís programs all over the OECD to address the education gender gap. Meanwhile, isnít it interesting that once they graduate men still earn more in the workplace than the women who outperformed them in school?



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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2017, 11:45:54 pm »
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Is the future female?

Hope so....   men in power have been responsible for oppressive religions, oppressive governments, war and a lack of climate change action.

Time for a change....

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 12:28:17 am »
I'm hoping the future is somewhere in the ballpark of 50% female, 50% male, but due to the natural law of averages and not due to Trudeau-style gender quotas.
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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 08:34:20 am »
Hope so....   men in power have been responsible for oppressive religions, oppressive governments, war and a lack of climate change action.

Time for a change....

I really canít imagine women being a whole lot better.  They have human failings too, after all.

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Re: Is the future female?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 01:14:38 pm »
Hope so....   men in power have been responsible for oppressive religions, oppressive governments, war and a lack of climate change action.

Time for a change....
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