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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Is The College Intolerance Meme Bullshit ?
« Reply #450 on: January 29, 2018, 04:09:27 pm »
  Nationalism is a very tricky thing, can easily turn into hate of "the other".

Tricky, but it's an extension of tribalism which is necessary and evolutionary.

But... are there native leaders who proclaim that they own Canada.  That seems pretty regressive.  I think that it's incorrect, but mostly sad when individual natives try to assert that they own Canada.  It's perhaps more repugnant when people of power assert it, wouldn't you say ?

Because they could make it happen.

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« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2018, 04:20:03 pm »
But... are there native leaders who proclaim that they own Canada.  That seems pretty regressive.  I think that it's incorrect, but mostly sad when individual natives try to assert that they own Canada.  It's perhaps more repugnant when people of power assert it, wouldn't you say ?
In the Canadian context natives have power. The Liberals are pushing through a bill that would throw away the compromises that SCC has established and simply give natives a veto on every development in the country. In practice what this will mean is nothing will be built unless sufficient moneys bribes are handed over to the wannabe feudal lords. But such consequences are inconsequential to people who put a higher priority on feel good virtue signalling instead of worrying about the downstream consequences.
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Re: Is The College Intolerance Meme Bullshit ?
« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2018, 04:39:19 pm »
In the Canadian context natives have power.

Oh, yeah they're doing GREAT.  ???
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« Reply #453 on: January 29, 2018, 04:57:15 pm »
Oh, yeah they're doing GREAT.
Does not change the sweeping legal powers that keep getting handed to them without any consideration of the long term consequences. The fact that only the chiefs and their families really benefit from this do not change the facts.
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« Reply #454 on: February 21, 2018, 11:57:05 am »
I came across this video last night. It's remarkable really only in how banal it is. It's Benjamin Shapiro giving a talk at the University of Connecticut.  I don't think Shapiro is that great a speaker, really, and I didn't find any of his ideas to be really startling or even 'out there'. He starts off giving 'facts', which 'can't be contradicted' and this consists mostly of reciting statistics from government and respected academic studies on five social value topics.

Black crime and police shootings of Blacks.
Female economic inequality and '**** culture' on campus
Abortion
Income inequality
Transgenderism

Then he gives his opinions which are derived from the data. Which are basically that Blacks being shot by police in statistically smaller numbers than they ought to be given the Black crime rate, that crime is related to unwed motherhood, that there is no female inequality or **** culture, that abortion is bad, that inequality doesn't exist, or is largely the result of unwed motherhood, and that transgenderism is not scientifically valid.

The real marvel, though, is that he can only give his little talk surrounded by police and security - with many more outside. He's not accusing anyone, he's not making racist or sexist attacks on anyone, and he's not even talking politics, just social values issues from a conservative perspective.

The opening few minutes where he discussed the way people have gone crazy at the idea of allowing him to speak.  Note how the whole front of the room is lined with police and security.



The full speech which I haven't finished

 
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Re: Is The College Intolerance Meme Bullshit ?
« Reply #455 on: February 21, 2018, 12:49:54 pm »
Young America’s Foundation ::) what was that about indoctrination?

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« Reply #456 on: February 21, 2018, 01:10:43 pm »
I liked the other video better.   :-[

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« Reply #457 on: February 21, 2018, 06:33:33 pm »
I liked the other video better.   :-[

I don't expect anyone to actually watch much of the video. I was mostly pointing out all the freaking security he has to have just to say some fairly ordinary things.
However, if you do watch he makes the point of how discussion is how people should deal with disagreement, and that he welcomes people who disagree with him to ask questions at the end, and puts them at the head of the lineups and that he will answer anyone polite with polite answers.
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« Reply #458 on: March 01, 2018, 08:15:46 pm »
So this is a talk given by Greg Lukianoff of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, discussing the way universities implement anti free speech codes in order to ban any words which might offend or bother other students. He talks about some of the legal cases the foundation has launched against a variety of universities - all of which they have won - over these incredibly overbroad speech codes intended to shelter students from any kind of speech which might offend them. The speech codes are so egragiously unconstitutional that they get thrown out of court whenever they're challenged, yet universities cling to them stubbornly, and the majority of universities have them.

He also makes the point that the number of administrators at universiies now outnumbers the teachers, and their job is to minutely govern every aspect of everything that goes on in unviersity in very, very tiny detail. And their numbers continue to grow.


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« Reply #459 on: March 03, 2018, 09:59:13 am »
So the lefties on campus are up in arms again, this time over a professor out east at Acadia University. Like Peterson, he's a psychology professor, but his critics are having a hard time calling him a white supremacist since he's east indian.

Prof. Mehta is an unabashed Peterson fan. He, too, likes to whack away at current campus pieties. He has also said that Indigenous policies have fostered a victim mentality, and that he, personally, does not feel guilty for the wrongs done to historic populations before he was alive. (As an immigrant of East Indian descent, he can hardly be accused of white privilege, either.) The bill of indictment also includes statements he has made on social media, and sometimes in the classroom, about men and women and the fact that their career interests tend to differ. He thinks that the pay gap is largely fictional, that immigration policy needs vigorous debate and that introductory psych courses (such as the one he teaches) largely ignore the role of intellectual ability in determining social outcomes. In the real world, none of these views are particularly radical, and some are empirically correct. But in the hothouse world of today's universities, they are automatically racist, sexist and hateful.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/you-cant-say-that-on-campus/article38174267/
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« Reply #460 on: March 03, 2018, 10:32:38 am »
I accept that these incidents are wrong, and that people will want to pursue them but not that it's "scary" in the context with other challenges we face as a society. 
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Re: Is The College Intolerance Meme Bullshit ?
« Reply #461 on: March 03, 2018, 10:35:21 am »
tl;dr

Associate Professor of psych wants to make public statements casting aspersions against natives.  Isn't allowed to.

Moving on.

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« Reply #462 on: March 03, 2018, 10:55:09 am »
tl;dr

Associate Professor of psych wants to make public statements casting aspersions against natives.  Isn't allowed to.

Moving on.

How did they stop him?  Molten lead?  Shotgun?  Curare?

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« Reply #463 on: March 03, 2018, 11:34:07 am »
How did they stop him?  Molten lead?  Shotgun?  Curare?

I dunno.  Frankly, I am bored with these things.  There's enough attention paid, and a hunger for any stories on this topic so I'm sure unfairness will get the attention it needs.

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Re: Is The College Intolerance Meme Bullshit ?
« Reply #464 on: March 03, 2018, 11:41:28 am »
tl;dr

Associate Professor of psych wants to make public statements casting aspersions against natives.  Isn't allowed to.

Moving on.

How is he making aspersions against natives? Saying he doesn't feel guilty and pointing out the inaccuracy of the progressive kant is not casting aspersions on natives.
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