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Offline Granny

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Re: Insidiousness of Alt-Right Recruitment
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2019, 07:04:07 pm »
They are not publishers, that is a world of difference. They are simply a bulletin board in the local supermarket or laundromat.

But the supermarket or laundromat would remove offensive posts that might affect their business.

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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2019, 07:21:41 pm »
But the supermarket or laundromat would remove offensive posts that might affect their business.

They sure would. Another reason you can't make the connection to social media.
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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2019, 08:52:26 pm »
I would make it illegal to have anonymous content, in my country.  Otherwise you have trolls and bots everywhere.

I'd rather have the freedom to discuss any issue i want without losing friends and my job going PC and accusing me of being a whatever-phobe.

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And anyway, wouldn't it be better for advertisers to know your audience is 100% real ?

Who cares about them.  All they want is to steal your private data to sell u crap.
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2019, 08:57:02 pm »
But the supermarket or laundromat would remove offensive posts that might affect their business.

But should the laundromat disallow offensive clothing from being washed in their machines?  In the end they can do anything they want.  Facebook can remove whatever they choose.  In the end Facebook only cares about exploiting its userbase to share their personal info with advertisers to make money, while sharing it all with government at the same time.
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Offline wilber

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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2019, 11:16:23 pm »
But should the laundromat disallow offensive clothing from being washed in their machines?  In the end they can do anything they want.  Facebook can remove whatever they choose.  In the end Facebook only cares about exploiting its userbase to share their personal info with advertisers to make money, while sharing it all with government at the same time.

Do you go through washers and driers looking for other people's clothes? Do laundromats bring them into your home?
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2019, 10:26:08 am »
That's a cop out, they are muti billion dollar business, not bulletin boards. Even bulletin board owners are accountable for what is posted.

Bulletin board owners take down notices that they see or were notified and disagree with, they have zero, nada, nil accountability for what is posted.

You are demanding that google take responsibility for what some right wing nutcase says, that itself is nuts.

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Re: Insidiousness of Alt-Right Recruitment
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2019, 12:42:47 pm »
talk about the insidiousness... recruitment and propaganda spreading: see the most recent populist and far-right "Conservative" parties that have joined... and been accepted into... the International Democrat Union. Even Viktor Orbán/Hungary’s Fidesz party wasn't, 'a bridge too far', for IDU Chairman Harper!

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2019, 08:43:34 pm »
Bulletin board owners take down notices that they see or were notified and disagree with, they have zero, nada, nil accountability for what is posted.

You are demanding that google take responsibility for what some right wing nutcase says, that itself is nuts.

Google and Facebook are making many millions allowing nut cases to spew their lies, so yes, they should be accountable for their product.
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2019, 10:50:21 pm »
Google and Facebook are making many millions allowing nut cases to spew their lies, so yes, they should be accountable for their product.

if they post the content, via advertising, then sure.  But if they simply provide a communications platform are they responsible for every convo and comment?  Shouldn't the user be responsible?  Is Bell responsible for every phone conversation?
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2019, 03:12:49 am »
Google and Facebook are making many millions allowing nut cases to spew their lies, so yes, they should be accountable for their product.

The fact of targeting ads at people - for money - according to their 'likes' and clicks doesn't bother me much. But targeting hateful propaganda that way - for money - just doesn't sit right.

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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2019, 01:09:07 pm »
Google and Facebook are making many millions allowing nut cases to spew their lies, so yes, they should be accountable for their product.

Their "product" is the bandwidth, not the content.

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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2019, 01:53:53 pm »
Their "product" is the bandwidth, not the content.

Nonsense. Bandwidth is just a means of delivering a product.
Your new TV is not the truck that delivered it.
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2019, 02:13:02 pm »
Nonsense. Bandwidth is just a means of delivering a product.
Your new TV is not the truck that delivered it.

Exactly. The TV is the product produced by many people, the vast majority being anonymous. Youtube is the truck.

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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2019, 02:22:21 pm »
Exactly. The TV is the product produced by many people, the vast majority being anonymous. Youtube is the truck.

So the guy smuggling the guns should be charged because it was his car's fault.
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Re: Insidiousness of Alt-Right Recruitment
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2019, 02:41:05 pm »
So the guy smuggling the guns should be charged because it was his car's fault.

youtube is not the guy driving the truck, they are the leasing company.