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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2021, 07:02:33 pm »
It's always useful for people to criticize ideas, especially bad ones, and/or ones that some feel are above criticism.

Why ?

Is there a purpose ?

And if there is one - could it be possible for some criticism to be pointless because it clearly doesn't advance the purpose ?

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2021, 07:39:40 pm »
And please - you free speech people are infringing on my right to free speech by criticizing me.  Shouldn't I be allowed to criticize religions or their people or their skin colour so they can change it ?

Jeez, it's so frickin' simple.

Stop blocking my free speech.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2021, 07:54:48 pm »
And please - you free speech people are infringing on my right to free speech by criticizing me.  Shouldn't I be allowed to criticize religions or their people or their skin colour so they can change it ?

Jeez, it's so frickin' simple.

Stop blocking my free speech.

Anyone can criticize anything they want.  Anyone else can disagree. 

No one is under any obligation to change anything.

It is simple.
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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 08:03:19 pm »
Anyone can criticize anything they want.  Anyone else can disagree. 

No one is under any obligation to change anything.

It is simple.

Agreed.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2021, 08:06:28 pm »
Why ?

Is there a purpose ?

And if there is one - could it be possible for some criticism to be pointless because it clearly doesn't advance the purpose ?

Refuting bad ideas is a noble cause.

The only objection to gay marriage was religious.  Telling the religious that their ideas were **** worked to promote equality.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2021, 08:08:58 pm »
And please - you free speech people are infringing on my right to free speech by criticizing me.  Shouldn't I be allowed to criticize religions or their people or their skin colour so they can change it ?

Jeez, it's so frickin' simple.

Stop blocking my free speech.

I’m not sure why you’re off on this free speech tangent.  Another red herring.  Equating being racist with criticism of religious ideas, or religions themselves, is patently dishonest.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2021, 08:21:06 pm »
They criticize the ideas and tenets, which is fair game for anything.  Religion shouldn’t get a free pass.

Yes, you are free to criticize religion. 

For me to question the usefulness of speech is not the same as me saying it shouldn't be allowed.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2021, 08:31:41 pm »
They criticize the ideas and tenets, which is fair game for anything.  Religion shouldn’t get a free pass.

Yes, you are free to criticize religion. 

For me to question the usefulness of speech is not the same as me saying it shouldn't be allowed.

Ah, I see. 

I have to admit, they haven't changed the blasphemy law in Pakistan yet. 

Still, it would be remiss of me to refrain from criticizing it.
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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2021, 08:32:33 pm »
Still, it would be remiss of me to refrain from criticizing it.

Pakistan or the religion ?

I don't care either way.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2021, 08:34:35 pm »
Pakistan or the religion ?

I don't care either way.

What's the difference when it comes to the blasphemy law?

You don't give the impression of someone who doesn't care either way.
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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2021, 08:52:04 pm »
They criticize the ideas and tenets, which is fair game for anything.  Religion shouldn’t get a free pass.

Yes, you are free to criticize religion. 

For me to question the usefulness of speech is not the same as me saying it shouldn't be allowed.

I find any speech that marginalizes mystical thinking to be extremely useful.

Beliefs inform opinions and actions.  Things like anti-gay sentiments are almost exclusively the purview of religion.
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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2021, 09:05:56 pm »


You don't give the impression of someone who doesn't care either way.

I am not trying to tell you to not criticize Pakistan or Islam.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2021, 09:07:09 pm »
I find any speech useful that marginalizes mystical thinking to be extremely useful.

You just made Jesus cry.  I hope you're happy.
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Beliefs inform opinions and actions.  Things like anti-gay sentiments are almost exclusively the purview of religion.

Development of a religion was part of the development of human culture.  Mr. Perfect feels bigger about himself when he sees cave drawings.

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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2021, 09:19:10 pm »
I am not trying to tell you to not criticize Pakistan or Islam.

No, but you do seem irritated by the presumption.

But I could be wrong. 
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Re: How Religious Fundamentalism Hijacks the Brain
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2021, 09:24:40 pm »
No, but you do seem irritated by the presumption.

But I could be wrong.

No - Mr. Perfect irritates me because he's unpleasant to talk to.

If I dare say anything about the usefulness of criticizing religion, well how dare I ?

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