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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #285 on: January 21, 2022, 12:09:26 pm »
Not sure what you mean.  Did Peterson not have to embarassingly retract his fantasm that C-16 would compel speech ?

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Yes.  Yes that did happen.

Did he ever actually retract anything he said about c16 or did he just keep ploughing forward like nothing happened?

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #286 on: January 21, 2022, 12:23:34 pm »
Did he ever actually retract anything he said about c16 or did he just keep ploughing forward like nothing happened?

He is remarkably unaccountable for his own errors, as you know, so you have to always read between the lines with him.  Slavoj Zizek knew this in the debate, so he cleverly gave him little mouse holes to escape scot free from his bad arguments.  This was done, I suspect, so Slavoj could siphon off the 1% or so of Jordan bros who might recognize a superior intellect.

Anyway with C-16 he said something to the parliamentary committee about having seen something on an Ontario Human Rights Commission page that caused him to be concerned that speech would be 'compelled' and then said that passage was removed so he had no evidence anymore...

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #287 on: January 21, 2022, 12:35:54 pm »
He is remarkably unaccountable for his own errors, as you know, so you have to always read between the lines with him.  Slavoj Zizek knew this in the debate, so he cleverly gave him little mouse holes to escape scot free from his bad arguments.  This was done, I suspect, so Slavoj could siphon off the 1% or so of Jordan bros who might recognize a superior intellect.

Anyway with C-16 he said something to the parliamentary committee about having seen something on an Ontario Human Rights Commission page that caused him to be concerned that speech would be 'compelled' and then said that passage was removed so he had no evidence anymore...

Blah blah blah...

LOL my man doesn't know how to take a screenshot I guess.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #288 on: January 21, 2022, 12:53:49 pm »
LOL my man doesn't know how to take a screenshot I guess.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #290 on: January 21, 2022, 03:09:48 pm »
Mental illness?  No I would say character flaw.

Why, did he self diagnose as mentally ill?

So getting depressed and becoming physically dependent to prescription narcotics is a character flaw?

What does any of this have to do with anything, besides being a pretty nefarious attempt to assassinate his character in order to discredit him by peddling lies, which you've done on many occasions btw.  Also, don't believe everything you read on twitter.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #291 on: January 21, 2022, 03:15:12 pm »
So getting depressed and becoming physically dependent to prescription narcotics is a character flaw?

What does any of this have to do with anything, besides being a pretty nefarious attempt to assassinate his character in order to discredit him by peddling lies, which you've done on many occasions btw.  Also, don't believe everything you read on twitter.

Why should our tax dollars go to pay the salary of a drug addict?   I bet the public institution at which he worked offered drug counseling too, at our expense!  Did they make sure he wasn’t stealing at his plush university job to feed his habit? 
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #292 on: January 21, 2022, 03:23:30 pm »
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Ok he's saying he probably has an allergy to sulphites.  What is your point?

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LOL no it's not, that's totally insane.

Because they aren't dressing to be sexually attractive?

And yeah, it's totally an excuse for men who harass women (and given the rumours that JP is facing a few sexual harassment suits, not a surprise).

So a woman who wears lipstick to make her lips appear redder as occurs during sexual arousal and wears high heels to make her calves tighter and lengthens the lines on her feet to appear like she's tip-toeing isn't trying to look sexually attractive?  Why doesn't she just wear a loose dress and some flat shoes to work?  We all know the answer.

Also, more unsubstantiated rumours and gossip to undermine his character (ad hominem).  Let's assume he has **** 18 women.  Ok so then he'd be a horrible person.  How would this undermine the advice in his books?

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"So what do you do in the face of that suffering? Try to reduce it! Start with yourself, what good are you? Get yourself together for christ’s sake so that when your father dies you’re not whining away in a corner and you can help plan the funeral. And you can stand up solidly so that people can rely on you. That’s better! Don’t be a damn victim!"-JP

I guess the point, that the self-appointed expert in self-improvement through personal responsibility and pulling yourself up by the bootstraps was completely incapable of following his own advice, completely eludes you, hey?

So your point is that he's human?  Ok.  Let's assume he's a total hypocrite and can't follow any of his own advice.  So what?  Does that mean his advice is not good advice?  Why do I (or you) care about what he does in his personal life, other than using them as ad hominems?  Do you have anything to say about his actual arguments, especially with the his psychological advice, or do you want to continue with the personal attacks and character assassinations and myriad of other ad hominems that are totally menaingless?  It's quite resentful and petty to be honest.

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As for how i would handle it if I was in his shoes? I would simply log off Twitter and spend more time with my money, er, family.

You should write a book and make this a rule, pretty good advice.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #293 on: January 21, 2022, 03:28:41 pm »
So he's responding to a social and collaborative approach to mitigate force with a threat of more force. 

He doesn't believe in dialogue, clearly.  We should have guessed this when he overreacted on proposed bill C-16...

He's not threatening violence, he's making a prediction that others will use violence.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #294 on: January 21, 2022, 03:32:22 pm »
If I had a dollar for every time some braindead JP stan told me I was taking something he said out of context I'd have more money than that chucklehead.

It's abundantly clear that JP's one of those freaks who thinks fascist violence is a natural ("Inside the collective is a beast and the beast uses its fists."), inevitable and understandable response to wokeness.

LOL what???

No, he's saying if radicals keep pushing dumb **** onto people then the other radicals (the ones with a lot of guns) will start getting fed up and push back with violence.  See:  Rittenhouse,
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #295 on: January 21, 2022, 03:35:14 pm »
Evidently, using violence is bad if you're protesting Jordan Peterson speaking on your campus, but it's totally understandable response to being asked to use someone's preferred pronouns.

This is a totally inaccurate summary of his argument.  Please improve your reading and auditory comprehension.  You and Michael are literally every twitter bully.  Please keep tweeting your #fakenews to help further the erosion of society.  Unbelievable. I'm having a discussion with a couple of 3 year-olds.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #296 on: January 21, 2022, 03:35:28 pm »
1. So getting depressed and becoming physically dependent to prescription narcotics is a character flaw?

2. What does any of this have to do with anything, besides being a pretty nefarious attempt to assassinate his character

3. ... in order to discredit him by peddling lies, which you've done on many occasions btw.  Also, don't believe everything you read on twitter.
1. not in my eyes but probably in the view of his philosophy of moral turpitude
2. I resent that.  I assassinate his character in plain day
3. I don't need to discredit him, he does that on his own.  If you find me lying about Peterson post it and I will retract.  I respect you that much.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #297 on: January 21, 2022, 03:36:04 pm »
He's not threatening violence, he's making a prediction that others will use violence.

Ok point taken.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #298 on: January 21, 2022, 03:37:37 pm »
So he's responding to a social and collaborative approach to mitigate force with a threat of more force. 

He doesn't believe in dialogue, clearly.  We should have guessed this when he overreacted on proposed bill C-16...

Also, I think it would be useful to take the critical thinking skills you use to disarm #angertainment by rightwing rags like the National Post and apply them equally to people schilling the same thing on the left, like blackdog is doing and apparently yourself as well.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #299 on: January 21, 2022, 03:39:52 pm »
If I had a dollar for every time some braindead JP stan told me I was taking something he said out of context I'd have more money than that chucklehead.

If I had a dollar for every time you take something someone says or writes and repeat it back as a completely fabricated lie of its former self based on what you want to hear rather than what was said...

Are you Cathy Newman?



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