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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #270 on: January 20, 2022, 09:41:39 am »
Link or it didn't happen.

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I believe he was talking about whether or not men and women can co-exist in the workplace without sexual harassment.  He said women wear things like high heels and lipstick to make themselves look sexually attractive to the opposite sex on the workplace, and this can create temptations for men and make them more likely to make sexual advances, and that women want men to find them sexually attractive in the workplace which is obviously true.

LOL no it's not, that's totally insane.

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He didn't say it's an excuse for men to harass, but yeah maybe he said it kinda makes women hypocrites. Why would you want to look sexually attractive if you didn't want to entice men?  Maybe it's just the "wrong" men who are hitting on these women?  Now obviously none of this is an excuse for clearly inappropriate and uninvited actions.

Because they aren't dressing to be sexually attractive?

And yeah, it's totally an excuse for men who harass women (and given the rumours that JP is facing a few sexual harassment suits, not a surprise).

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Maybe if there weren't millions of people like you on the internet trying to destroy his career every second of every day he wouldn't have fallen into a depression. He did have his stuff together until he came across millions of people like you.  How do you think you or I would handle it?  Like peaches?  I would assume the stress of very carefully trying one to choose your words because one mispoken word leads to half of twitter reaming you out is a little stressful don't you think?  Do you think it's also stressful for countless online bullies to jump on the man while he gets sick from it and derives some kind of sick satisfaction from seeing him down on one knee?  Good job I guess you won that round eh?  You're clearly a better human than him!

"So what do you do in the face of that suffering? Try to reduce it! Start with yourself, what good are you? Get yourself together for christ’s sake so that when your father dies you’re not whining away in a corner and you can help plan the funeral. And you can stand up solidly so that people can rely on you. That’s better! Don’t be a damn victim!"-JP

I guess the point, that the self-appointed expert in self-improvement through personal responsibility and pulling yourself up by the bootstraps was completely incapable of following his own advice, completely eludes you, hey?

As for how i would handle it if I was in his shoes? I would simply log off Twitter and spend more time with my money, er, family. Because I'm not a malignant narcissist with a God complex.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #271 on: January 20, 2022, 10:20:00 am »
I’ve only read his first book, and it was anything but bonkers.  It was just common sense, or at least it used to be.

I think the point is he would be languishing in obscurity if the only thing he had to offer was his utterly banal self-help schtick and he knows it, hence the culture war gifting.


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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #273 on: January 20, 2022, 11:43:23 am »
Cancel culture again...

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In an interview with As It Happens last year, Peterson said the "continual careless pushing of people by left wing radicals is dangerously waking up the right wing."

"So you can consider this a prophecy from me if you want. Inside the collective is a beast and the beast uses its fists. If you wake up the beast then violence emerges. I'm afraid that this continual pushing by radical left wingers is going to wake up the beast," he said.

This weepy little Kermit-voiced creep really believes victims are responsible for their own violent victimization (unless the victim is Jordan Peterson and the violence is in the form of mean tweets).

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #274 on: January 20, 2022, 12:04:47 pm »
From my link:

This weepy little Kermit-voiced creep really believes victims are responsible for their own violent victimization (unless the victim is Jordan Peterson and the violence is in the form of mean tweets).

So he's responding to a social and collaborative approach to mitigate force with a threat of more force. 

He doesn't believe in dialogue, clearly.  We should have guessed this when he overreacted on proposed bill C-16...

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #275 on: January 20, 2022, 12:23:49 pm »
From my link:

This weepy little Kermit-voiced creep really believes victims are responsible for their own violent victimization (unless the victim is Jordan Peterson and the violence is in the form of mean tweets).
It’s not what he believes at all.  You continue to take everything he says out of context.  Probably on purpose, as your brain is too small to grasp concepts with nuance.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #276 on: January 20, 2022, 01:10:24 pm »
It’s not what he believes at all. You continue to take everything he says out of context.  Probably on purpose, as your brain is too small to grasp concepts with nuance.

If I had a dollar for every time some braindead JP stan told me I was taking something he said out of context I'd have more money than that chucklehead.

It's abundantly clear that JP's one of those freaks who thinks fascist violence is a natural ("Inside the collective is a beast and the beast uses its fists."), inevitable and understandable response to wokeness.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #277 on: January 20, 2022, 01:12:20 pm »
So he's responding to a social and collaborative approach to mitigate force with a threat of more force. 

He doesn't believe in dialogue, clearly.  We should have guessed this when he overreacted on proposed bill C-16...

Evidently, using violence is bad if you're protesting Jordan Peterson speaking on your campus, but it's totally understandable response to being asked to use someone's preferred pronouns.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #278 on: January 20, 2022, 01:58:22 pm »
Evidently, using violence is bad if you're protesting Jordan Peterson speaking on your campus, but it's totally understandable response to being asked to use someone's preferred pronouns.

And ASKED not FORCED ...
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #279 on: January 20, 2022, 02:00:38 pm »
Evidently, using violence is bad if you're protesting Jordan Peterson speaking on your campus, but it's totally understandable response to being asked to use someone's preferred pronouns.
You’re insane.  None of that is true.  I’m sorry that you’ve been so thoroughly misinformed.  I’m embarrassed for you.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #280 on: January 20, 2022, 02:01:37 pm »
And ASKED not FORCED ...
I’m embarrassed for you as well.  You’re so grossly misinformed that a discussion isn’t even possible.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #281 on: January 20, 2022, 02:04:12 pm »
I’m embarrassed for you as well.  You’re so grossly misinformed that a discussion isn’t even possible.

Not sure what you mean.  Did Peterson not have to embarassingly retract his fantasm that C-16 would compel speech ?

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Yes.  Yes that did happen.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #282 on: January 20, 2022, 02:31:11 pm »
You’re insane.  None of that is true.  I’m sorry that you’ve been so thoroughly misinformed.  I’m embarrassed for you.

Not an argument.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #283 on: January 20, 2022, 02:32:00 pm »
I’m embarrassed for you as well.  You’re so grossly misinformed that a discussion isn’t even possible.

Classic avoidance tactic lol. What a coward.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #284 on: January 20, 2022, 02:40:38 pm »
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…women want men to find them sexually attractive in the workplace which is obviously true.

This is creepy.  Stop making excuses to be a fuckin’ creep to the women you work with.
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