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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #255 on: January 19, 2022, 05:53:08 pm »
He's bonkers but he's making millions now from right wing Patreon rubes pretending he's Grandpa Walton...

I would like his is teachings more if he were more intellectually honest.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #256 on: January 19, 2022, 06:04:28 pm »
He's bonkers but he's making millions now from right wing Patreon rubes pretending he's Grandpa Walton...

I would like his is teachings more if he were more intellectually honest.
I’ve only read his first book, and it was anything but bonkers.  It was just common sense, or at least it used to be. 
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #257 on: January 19, 2022, 07:18:26 pm »
A lot of people who write good self-help books are themselves ... Bonkers

Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #258 on: January 19, 2022, 07:22:13 pm »
The dude who wanted to build a blacklist of his colleagues who were teaching wrongthink said that?

Links or it didn't happen.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #259 on: January 19, 2022, 07:30:00 pm »
Here's him talking about new COVID variants emerging when its "convenient for pharmaceutical companies".


Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan to make shots compulsory

wait waldo, lookee what Jordan Peterson is up to... cause why lose an opportunity for manufactured misinformation drama, particularly if it helps support anti-vaxx positioning and presumes to leverage that ole' anti-vaxxer chestnut that COVID vaccines are experimental. Notwithstanding, of course, that the EU Commission head has said nothing about the 'Nuremberg Code' - that set of research ethics principles for human experimentation emanating from the Nuremberg trials at the end of the Second World War. Clearly Peterson and his ilk have no qualms in positioning COVID vaccination policies as being comparable to those Nuremberg trials most notable for the prosecution of prominent members of the political, military, judicial, and economic leadership of Nazi Germany, who planned, carried out, or otherwise participated in the Holocaust and other war crimes.


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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #260 on: January 19, 2022, 07:37:33 pm »
Like the one time he had a sip of apple cider that sent him into a month long depression?

Link or it didn't happen.

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And his claim was women who wear makeup and high heels are hypocrites if the complain about sexual harassment.

I believe he was talking about whether or not men and women can co-exist in the workplace without sexual harassment.  He said women wear things like high heels and lipstick to make themselves look sexually attractive to the opposite sex on the workplace, and this can create temptations for men and make them more likely to make sexual advances, and that women want men to find them sexually attractive in the workplace which is obviously true.  He didn't say it's an excuse for men to harass, but yeah maybe he said it kinda makes women hypocrites.  Why would you want to look sexually attractive if you didn't want to entice men?  Maybe it's just the "wrong" men who are hitting on these women?  Now obviously none of this is an excuse for clearly inappropriate and uninvited actions.

Here's him talking about new COVID variants emerging when its "convenient for pharmaceutical companies".[/quote]
Ok i disagree with him on this.  He isn't a doctor or biologist, he's just a dude with an opinion here.

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I dunno, who cares. If he allowed his life to get to such a state that he got hooked on drugs, maybe he shouldn't be criticizing the world around him. Pretty sure that's one of his rules.

Maybe if there weren't millions of people like you on the internet trying to destroy his career every second of every day he wouldn't have fallen into a depression.  He did have his stuff together until he came across millions of people like you.  How do you think you or I would handle it?  Like peaches?  I would assume the stress of very carefully trying one to choose your words because one mispoken word leads to half of twitter reaming you out is a little stressful don't you think?  Do you think it's also stressful for countless online bullies to jump on the man while he gets sick from it and derives some kind of sick satisfaction from seeing him down on one knee?  Good job I guess you won that round eh?  You're clearly a better human than him!
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #261 on: January 19, 2022, 07:40:08 pm »
He's bonkers but he's making millions now from right wing Patreon rubes pretending he's Grandpa Walton...

See above.

Thank you for shaming him for his bout of mental illness caused by the stresses created by people like Blackdog and Michael Hardner.  I'm sure these labels will help his recovery.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #262 on: January 19, 2022, 07:43:04 pm »
H8ters gonna h8.  Book sales don't lie.  Revel in glee as he helps millions of people transform their lives.  Quick name another private citizen who has helped more people in the last 5 years?  As I've said before, not everybody is going to agree with someone's political opinions, and neither do I, so as a pundit he's just that.  He's a brilliant psychologist, the numbers don't lie.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #263 on: January 19, 2022, 08:36:17 pm »
H8ters gonna h8.  Book sales don't lie.  Revel in glee as he helps millions of people transform their lives.  Quick name another private citizen who has helped more people in the last 5 years?  As I've said before, not everybody is going to agree with someone's political opinions, and neither do I, so as a pundit he's just that.  He's a brilliant psychologist, the numbers don't lie.

Bad books never sell well?

There are a lot of suckers who buy into this crap.  You’re proof.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #264 on: January 19, 2022, 08:44:12 pm »
  He's a brilliant psychologist, the numbers don't lie.

Psychology and self-help aren't the same thing exactly.  If you think self help #s mean something I have an Oprah and Dr. Phil to sell you.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #265 on: January 19, 2022, 09:05:12 pm »
Psychology and self-help aren't the same thing exactly.  If you think self help #s mean something I have an Oprah and Dr. Phil to sell you.

Oprah isn't a psychologist, Peterson is.  Peterson's books are well-cited and are based on psychology.   What is the difference in going to see a psychologist and getting their advice vs reading advice from a psychologist from a book?  One is simply personally tailored and more expensive.  Are you saying Peterson isn't qualified as a psychologist?

The devil's advocates here, as far as I know, haven't even read his book so what is the point of debating from ignorance?  If you dislike him for his political opinions and crabby tendencies, ok that's fair.

If he didn't help people, people wouldn't keep buying his books.  If anyone wants his self-help books to fail because they disagree with his political opinions, which are pretty much unrelated, then they are a spiteful and terrible human being.  The satisfaction from people seeing him suffer multiple medical issues is pretty disgusting, especially when they spread lies about the reasons for that suffering.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #266 on: January 19, 2022, 10:10:41 pm »
Oprah isn't a psychologist, Peterson is.  Peterson's books are well-cited and are based on psychology.   What is the difference in going to see a psychologist and getting their advice vs reading advice from a psychologist from a book?  One is simply personally tailored and more expensive.  Are you saying Peterson isn't qualified as a psychologist?

The devil's advocates here, as far as I know, haven't even read his book so what is the point of debating from ignorance?  If you dislike him for his political opinions and crabby tendencies, ok that's fair.

If he didn't help people, people wouldn't keep buying his books.  If anyone wants his self-help books to fail because they disagree with his political opinions, which are pretty much unrelated, then they are a spiteful and terrible human being.  The satisfaction from people seeing him suffer multiple medical issues is pretty disgusting, especially when they spread lies about the reasons for that suffering.

I like that you ignore the Covid conspiratard stuff.  Or do you believe it too?
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #267 on: January 20, 2022, 05:38:55 am »
See above.

Thank you for shaming him for his bout of mental illness caused by the stresses created by people like Blackdog and Michael Hardner.  I'm sure these labels will help his recovery.

Mental illness?  No I would say character flaw.

Why, did he self diagnose as mentally ill?

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #268 on: January 20, 2022, 05:41:55 am »
   If you dislike him for his political opinions and crabby tendencies, ok that's fair.

 

Yes, this.  Also him spouting off on things he knows nothing about, like Marxism, climate change, sociology, economics etc.

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