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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #150 on: March 09, 2021, 10:00:38 am »
lmao the absolute state of this.
Intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers lmao

No thanks, I知 full. I値l pass on the word salad and stick to the realm of meaning.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #151 on: March 09, 2021, 10:06:26 am »
If you go to university in recent years and you're an sympathetic person (aka decent human being) it's very hard not to graduate as an intersectional Marxist sympathizer given that most every course in the social sciences and other fields are going to teach about intersectionalism and Marxist lenses.  The actual validity of those philosophies is a discussion for another day.

Gonna need some kinda citation for that one!

The largest field of study at postsecondary institutions in Canada is "business, management and public administration" followed by "architecture, engineering and related technologies." The humanities is a distant fifth with about 45,000 grads a year. You might get a taste of what you're talking about in sociology, you're certainly not getting a intersectional Marxist whatever indoctrination in fields like law or economics or (lol) engineering.

So: let's see some proof.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #152 on: March 09, 2021, 10:07:25 am »
Intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers lmao

No thanks, I知 full. I値l pass on the word salad and stick to the realm of meaning.

Don't venture out there without a map, there are Chaos Dragons everywhere!

GG is doing peterson's thing of throwing enough gobbeldydgook to make it look like the fundamental argument ("woke bad!") has some actual intellectual credibility.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #153 on: March 09, 2021, 02:42:56 pm »
Intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers lmao

No thanks, I知 full. I値l pass on the word salad and stick to the realm of meaning.

Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #154 on: March 09, 2021, 02:46:58 pm »
Gonna need some kinda citation for that one!

The largest field of study at postsecondary institutions in Canada is "business, management and public administration" followed by "architecture, engineering and related technologies." The humanities is a distant fifth with about 45,000 grads a year. You might get a taste of what you're talking about in sociology, you're certainly not getting a intersectional Marxist whatever indoctrination in fields like law or economics or (lol) engineering.

So: let's see some proof.

That's why I said the social sciences, nothing you said is relevant to what I said.  Re-read what I wrote.  No sh!t they don't learn about Marxism in engineering lol.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #155 on: March 09, 2021, 02:49:17 pm »
Don't venture out there without a map, there are Chaos Dragons everywhere!

GG is doing peterson's thing of throwing enough gobbeldydgook to make it look like the fundamental argument ("woke bad!") has some actual intellectual credibility.

I never even said woke bad.  I said woke popular.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #156 on: March 09, 2021, 02:51:39 pm »
That's why I said the social sciences, nothing you said is relevant to what I said.  Re-read what I wrote.  No sh!t they don't learn about Marxism in engineering lol.

You literally said "most university students graduate as intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers."

Derp.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #157 on: March 09, 2021, 02:52:26 pm »
I never even said woke bad.  I said woke popular.

You don't need to say it when it comes through loud and clear in your posts. Also, "woke bad" is pretty much Lobsterboys' whole stance.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #158 on: March 09, 2021, 02:59:26 pm »
Intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers lmao

No thanks, I知 full. I値l pass on the word salad and stick to the realm of meaning.

Are you saying the majority of university students in the social sciences don't graduate as ardent intersectionalists or Marxist sympathizers/socialists?  Did you?  Do you believe in and support intersectionalism, critical theory through lenses like feminism and critical race theory?  Do you sympathize with Marxism or socialism?  You are an NDP national pharmacare supporter are you not?

Did they teach you more about classic liberalism in university, or more about anti-neoliberalism and intersectionalism, critical theory, Marxist lenses etc?  I know the answer because I went to university.

Just own your sh!t.  As I said, don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #159 on: March 09, 2021, 03:00:43 pm »
You literally said "most university students graduate as intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers."

Derp.


If you go to university in recent years and you're an sympathetic person (aka decent human being) it's very hard not to graduate as an intersectional Marxist sympathizer given that most every course in the social sciences and other fields are going to teach about intersectionalism and Marxist lenses.  The actual validity of those philosophies is a discussion for another day.

Derp
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #160 on: March 09, 2021, 03:01:57 pm »

If you go to university in recent years and you're an sympathetic person (aka decent human being) it's very hard not to graduate as an intersectional Marxist sympathizer given that most every course in the social sciences and other fields are going to teach about intersectionalism and Marxist lenses.  The actual validity of those philosophies is a discussion for another day.

Derp

Did you or did you not say "most university students graduate as intersectionalist Marxist sympathizers?"

Do you think "most" university students are in the social sciences and humanities or do you just like being wrong?
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #161 on: March 09, 2021, 03:05:12 pm »
You don't need to say it when it comes through loud and clear in your posts. Also, "woke bad" is pretty much Lobsterboys' whole stance.

Then own your sh!t.  You think woke good.  That's why you don't like Peterson.  You can make up all the reasons you want, but you'll never like him no matter what he says because you and him are opponents in the cultural war.  No different than cyberc.

Peterson says woke bad, which is obviously debatable, but he also says universities are woke mills.  He's not wrong.  If you think woke good, then you should embrace it.  Who cares if the label for woke is "postmodern cultural marxism" or something else, woke is woke.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #162 on: March 09, 2021, 03:13:12 pm »
Then own your sh!t.  You think woke good.  That's why you don't like Peterson.  You can make up all the reasons you want, but you'll never like him no matter what he says because you and him are opponents in the cultural war.  No different than cyberc.

You've got it exactly backwards. I don't think Peterson is wrong because he's anti-woke, I think he's anti-woke because he's wrong and very, very stupid, which leads him to make fantastical claims.

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Peterson says woke bad, which is obviously debatable, but he also says universities are woke mills.  He's not wrong.  If you think woke good, then you should embrace it.  Who cares if the label for woke is "postmodern cultural marxism" or something else, woke is woke.

You're begging the question. If he's right, you certainly haven't shown it here.

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #163 on: March 09, 2021, 03:28:14 pm »
Well can we all agree that "cultural Marxism" is a stupid term at least?  Like Zizek I get what Peterson and others mean by the term, but it just isn't a good term.
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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #164 on: March 09, 2021, 03:41:12 pm »
Well can we all agree that "cultural Marxism" is a stupid term at least?  Like Zizek I get what Peterson and others mean by the term, but it just isn't a good term.

Isn't the fact that Peterson loves the term an indication that he might not be the brain genius he's advertised as?
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