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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: How about a Discussion on Jordan Peterson?
« Reply #210 on: July 24, 2021, 02:14:34 pm »

1. There's no point in convincing you of anything here because it's pointless.  You have a long record of defending the social and cultural positions of whatever we're told is "correct" to us by the mainstream politically correct do-gooders. 

2. You have been "socially conditioned":  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conditioning  If everyone were this compliant to authority it would be a gloomy world indeed.  Maybe myself and kimmy and Peterson and whomever else don't want to just shut up and obey.

1. Weird take.  It's like "you have a long history of agreeing with the mainstream whether it's vaccines, or believing that Trump lost the election" talks about who agrees with your opinions, not whether they can be justified.

2. I didn't write him off entirely,  I only assessed his overall worth as an intellectual.  You say "no, he's a self-help guy" and I say "ok, fine well he's better at that anyway".  And now here you say "he's a rebel and pisses people off" as though that is worth anything on its own.  It sounds pretty immature to me. 

What is the point of discussing social and cultural matters ?  To come to a mutual understanding... to move past these things.. it is NOT to define entrenched camps that can snipe and each other back and forth.  There's no precedent for us deciding to do that, yet in the culture wars media keeps framing things that way so that they can prosper from facilitating the fight.

At this point, anybody who is sick of pointless fighting (dicks in spas ? really ? we can't work that one out with a few towels ? some signs ?  list of rules ? ) should put a time or space limit on people who can't work it out. 

Peterson's initial framing of the disagreements around pronounce etc. could have been of great service to fixing the mire we're in now.  So, yes, I guess I do blame him for opting to become whatever he is now.

Also, if he was a drug addict or whatever it kind of negates his whole "lead by example...  work on yourself" schtick down to the nub.