Just two prominent TERFs from Extremely Normal Island talking about how "the fewer (trans) people there are, the better."
I've heard the genderfabulous types howling that Joyce was calling for LiTeRaL GeNoCidE against the transes, but this is the first time I'd seen the clip. And pretty much as I expected the content of the clip is completely disconnected from the kook activists represent it to be.
While nutbars (like Katie Montgomery or Non-Binary Ronald McDonald here) would have people believe that she's talking concentration camp type mass extermination of people, that's obviously not what she's talking about.
She argues for trying to reduce the number of people transitioning for two reasons.
The first being reducing the amount of harm. We've talked about Keira Bell and Sinead Watson earlier in this thread; Joyce is a personal friend of Bell and has seen that harm first hand. I posted a clip of Sinead Watson from the W5 interview with her earlier in the thread; rewatch her if you don't believe young people are being harmed. As medical transition for teenagers becomes more common, there's good reason to believe that it'll be more common for it to be used on people who need mental health care rather than mastectomies and hormones and sterilization.
The second reason Joyce gives is the increased burden of accommodation imposed as the number of trans people increases. And if you don't agree with that, then explain to me why "we're talking about such a small number of people" comes up so frequently trans activist arguments.
"We're talking about such a small number of trans athletes, it's silly to think it would disrupt women's athletics."
"We're talking about such a small number of transgender prisoners, there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to accommodate them in women's prisons."
"Why, there's such a small number of transgender women, you'll probably never meet one in the changing rooms."
and this sort of thing.
That you guys sell "it's just a small number of them" as a reason why accommodating trans women is not an unreasonable burden on women concedes implicit agreement with Joyce's statement.
-k