Canadian Politics Today

If I think i'm attractive and I want to have sex with myself does that make me gay?

How so?

From what I can see the dynamic is this:

1. the left does something
2. the right wing presents a bad faith interpretation of 1.
3. The centre accepts the framing presented in 2.

1. I did say pigheaded policies.
2. That's what the right-wing does.  I mentioned the effect of the left's pigheaded policies on the left.
3. And just like some on the left some people in the center also refuse to take the Jessica Yaniv's of the world seriously.

Don't get me wrong, I love freakin' at a freaker's ball as much as any other freak but I don't like it when kids are dragged into it. Apparently I'm some sort of knuckle-dragging conservative for doubting that amputation surgery is a good effective treatment for gender dysphoria.

That doesn't make me want to vote conservative but being regarded as being conservative makes me want to stay home.

Give me an example.

Policies that fuel adolescent gender bending.

Again: who didn't take the Yaniv case seriously? What I saw was people from the left was pushback on the obvious and hamfisted attempts by the right to use the case to push transphobia.

Sometimes there really are slippery slopes that should be forcefully backed away from.

This is a great example of the dynamic at play. No one is advocating kids undergo surgical procedures for gender dysphoria, yet here you are (as with kimmy's scary-sounding euphemism of "medical gender intervention on prepubescent kids") making it sound like that's the case.

B.C. father’s attempt to stop child’s gender transition tossed out by appeal court
https://globalnews.ca/news/6399468/bc-gender-change-court/

Well, maybe if you stopped buying imto conservative framing of these issue?

I'm not, I'm not buying into it thru my own framing as a parent.  If kids can make decision of this importance they should probably be allowed to vote.

For what it's worth, I know adults including a few seniors who probably aren't mature enough to vote. 

1. I did say pigheaded policies.
2. That's what the right-wing does.  I mentioned the effect of the left's pigheaded policies on the left.
3. And just like some on the left some people in the center also refuse to take the Jessica Yaniv's of the world seriously.

Don't get me wrong, I love freakin' at a freaker's ball as much as any other freak but I don't like it when kids are dragged into it. Apparently I'm some sort of knuckle-dragging conservative for doubting that amputation surgery is a good effective treatment for gender dysphoria.

That doesn't make me want to vote conservative but being regarded as being conservative makes me want to stay home.

It's a tough issue when kids are involved and with serious issues that involve changing their body at a young age that will have lifelong impacts.  Are they too young and impressionable to make these decisions that will affect the rest of their lives?  Or should we support our kids to be who they want to be?  Should parents have consent or not?  These are all interesting questions that parents, kids, and medical professionals need to grapple with, and for all of us to try and understand.

When you're a teenager it's a time when your identity is formed.  I remember as a teen I wondered in my head "hmm am I gay"?  I mean it's a confusing time.  Turns out I wasn't gay, but I was scared that maybe I was.  I didn't even know what "being gay" felt like at that age.  My brother is gay and he dated women throughout high school...it's confusing.

If I had a child who felt like they were transgender I'd support them 110%.  I'd be a bit weary of things like surgery and hormones, simply because these are things that can be regretted later on, like getting a tattoo at 14 years old that you have for life.  If you're biologically a male and inside you feel you're female in gender, it doesn't mean there's something "wrong" with your body.  You can have a **** and feel feminine.  But social norms mean females need to look like females I guess, and so a transwoman may want "breasts" and other things to feel like they belong, or to feel more attractive.  Not any different than a woman wanting a boob job or a man wanting a nose job.  But you don't need plastic surgery or hormones to feel whole and complete, we're all ok just the way we are and shouldn't be made to feel any less regardless of social pressures to look a certain way.

I have no issues with any adult doing anything they want to their body, none of my business.

Ditto.  I see the larger issues beyond kids as more of a politicized fad than social revolution and I think too much of the seriousness adults have afforded it has found it's way into kid's heads and only added to their naturally confused thinking.  I suppose an analogy to peanut allergies is as misplaced as any in this business but I don't recall an epidemic of gender dysphoria when I was a kid either.

Fun fact:  When you're exposed as a young kid to nuts you're less likely to develop allergies.  So helicopter parents are afraid to give babies/toddlers peanuts so more are developing allergies.

Does not relate at all to trans kids LOL but fun fact.  I think letting kids being who they want is fine, but surgery and hormones is a lot.  Wearing a dress is much different than physically altering their body.  I'd teach my kid to love they body they're born in first no matter what gender they wish to express, and if they want to alter their bodies when they're adults they can do whatever they want.  Injecting your kids with hormones is a bit effed.

You don't need boobs to be feminine, lots of attractive women without large bosoms.  I think boob jobs and nose jobs in general are nuts.  Just accept yourself.

I think it's just a recognition that if a mob can "cancel" people for saying stuff you disagree with, a mob can also "cancel" people for saying stuff you agree with.

 -k

I love all this whining about cancel culture. Any time someone is criticized in a way that they don't like, they complain about the big spooky "cancel culture!" This is all a cheap ploy to silence criticism about racism, sexism, bigotry, xenophobia and misogyny. Don't think so? Republicans and conservatives LOVE cancel culture. Was it cancel culture with Colin Kaepernick, The Dixie Chicks, Kathy Griffin, Taylor Swift, etc? All this complaining about cancel culture plays into the strategy of creating a victim complex amongst white Christian Americans. It plays into the new alt-right white nationalist agenda. Don't fall for this stupidity and don't feed into the hype. Free speech means being able to publicly speak your mind, which means criticism of that speech is also free. You can only be free to be critical if others are free to respond with criticism. These complaints about cancel culture are literally attacks on free speech and complaints about free and open criticism of ideas. It's been twisted to serve the alt-right and it's sad that intelligent people fall for this garbage.

Policies that fuel adolescent gender bending.
Sometimes there really are slippery slopes that should be forcefully backed away from.
I'm not, I'm not buying into it thru my own framing as a parent.  If kids can make decision of this importance they should probably be allowed to vote.

Weird there's nothing in there that article that supports your claim that "amputation surgery" is being used on underaged kids.

Also, the claim that policies to advance transgender rights "fuel adolescent gender bending" also requires some clarification/evidence.