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Offline Omni

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« Reply #480 on: November 25, 2018, 06:23:42 pm »
And what is going to make 'my side' a minority? The hundreds of thousands of extremely religious Muslims your side is bringing into Canada? You think those are the people who are eagerly going to support womens rights, never mind gay rights, never mind absurdist fiction about men in dresses being women? You think the huge number of Asians coming in is any more thrilled by  the lunacy of the far left's extremist social views? The mainland Chinese coming in now are extremely conservative, if not very religious. They're not going to endorse any of this ****. The Filipinos are very Catholic. They're not going to endorse it either. Indians tend to be very conservative about sex, too.

Generally speaking 'my side' is mostly concerned about fiscal responsibility and reasonably sane social policy. Your side is obsessed with every little faddish bit of identity politics, elevating it to a breathtaking level of importance which eclipses all other everyday concerns. I think it was Douglas Murray who remarked at one point that western governments will be fixated on the shrill complaints of sanctimonious progressives when the Russians roll across Europe.

Sounds like your side have the same narrow mindedness, especially on this issue, as all those migrant hordes you are always in a panic about. The fact is trans gender has been around for a long long time and it will exist for a long long time.
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« Reply #481 on: November 25, 2018, 06:38:39 pm »
Hormone tampering can certainly augment transitioning but it also appears to happen naturally based simply on ones desire.

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« Reply #482 on: November 25, 2018, 06:44:50 pm »
I do have a solution to the issue of transgender females being allowed to compete against women.  Base sports on chromosomes, not "men's sports"and women's sports".  Since "men" and "women" seem to now be a social or psychological construct that can mean anything to anyone. 

XX sports and XY sports.

This would stop the farce of that "women's" bicycle race that was won by someone with different chromosomes to all the other competitors.

Not a bad idea. 

We could also simply base "male" sports and "female" sports on biological sex, as it has always been, rather than anything to do with gender expression, which is completely subjective & fluid.  That would also stop the farce of the biological male winning a women's bike race.  To bring in your idea, we can define a "man" in sports as XY and a woman as "XX".  ie: If you are XY you can't compete in women's categories.
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« Reply #484 on: November 25, 2018, 06:54:18 pm »
A discussion on the issue with a neuroscientist.
CBC letting a scientist/activist make claims without being challenged or questioned about the reliability/credibility of the underlying science does not count as a refutation of anything. At best is was a sermon from the church of SJW. If the CBC actually wanted to do something other than spread propaganda it would interview a multiple scientists with different opinions so listeners could make up their own mind on who has the most credible scientific argument.
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Offline Omni

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« Reply #485 on: November 25, 2018, 07:04:11 pm »
CBC letting a scientist/activist make claims without being challenged or questioned about the reliability/credibility of the underlying science does not count as a refutation of anything. At best is was a sermon from the church of SJW. If the CBC actually wanted to do something other than spread propaganda it would interview a multiple scientists with different opinions so listeners could make up their own mind on who has the most credible scientific argument.

Do a little research. There is ample science that indicates that things aren't as black and white, (or male/female) as we may have thought.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hormones-and-the-brain/201608/gender-identity-is-in-the-brain-what-does-tell-us

Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #486 on: November 25, 2018, 07:07:22 pm »
Also - we tried science with the much more impactful issue of climate and people opted out.  It's about the "feels" now, so the neo-cons who undermined it are barred from using it in this subject.

This means you.
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« Reply #487 on: November 25, 2018, 08:24:56 pm »
Do a little research. There is ample science that indicates that things aren't as black and white, (or male/female) as we may have thought.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hormones-and-the-brain/201608/gender-identity-is-in-the-brain-what-does-tell-us
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A discussion on the issue with a neuroscientist.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/scientist-refutes-notion-that-gender-identity-is-an-unscientific-liberal-ideology-1.4916508

Nothing in either of those articles actually supports the ridiculous notion that deciding you're trans will cause your hormones to change your body to reflect your gender preference.

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Offline Omni

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« Reply #488 on: November 25, 2018, 08:35:11 pm »
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Nothing in either of those articles actually supports the ridiculous notion that deciding you're trans will cause your hormones to change your body to reflect your gender preference.

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Correct. Nobody suggested the ridiculous notion that your choice to change gender would cause your **** to fall off.

Offline SirJohn

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #489 on: November 25, 2018, 08:38:12 pm »
Really only a few ticks of the clock.
 
You put me on a side that I'm not on.  I'm actually a liberal, which crosses over a lot of lines you have written here.

Liberals are on the same side as Progressives. There is no airpsace between the position of Justin Trudeau and the transactivists and their progressive allies.
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« Reply #490 on: November 25, 2018, 08:41:38 pm »
Also - we tried science with the much more impactful issue of climate and people opted out.  It's about the "feels" now, so the neo-cons who undermined it are barred from using it in this subject.

This means you.

It seems to me that what some of us denied wasn't so much science as basic arithmetic. Because we can count.
I think an opinion piece I read in the Sun put it best.

We hear the Liberal fable practically every day from Environment Minister Catherine McKenna, in the claim the Liberals’ carbon tax/plan will work and that it would matter if it did.

No credible body — not the federal environmental commissioner, not nine of 10 provincial auditors general, not the United Nations, not the federal government’s own studies — endorses the view Canada is going to meet the greenhouse gas reduction targets Prime Minister Justin Trudeau agreed to in the Paris accord in 2015.

Not for 2020 — which has already been abandoned as unrealistic — and not for 2030.
We’re not going to miss our targets by a little. We’re going to miss them by a country mile, particularly under the latest UN targets, which are far more stringent than the already unattainable ones Trudeau agreed to in 2015, which used to be the Harper government’s targets.

Even if we miraculously hit our unattainable targets, our contribution is insignificant given that we’re responsible for 1.6% of industrial greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change.


https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-federal-liberal-and-tory-climate-plans-are-fantasy

So I don't oppose the Liberal plan because I deny climate science, I oppose it because it's incredibly stupid and pointless and won't work.
Same reason I oppose this trans ****, beyond the respect we'd give anyone to live their own life as they choose without harassment. But stupid ass ideas like letting men who claim to be women compete in sports events against women, or letting them force their way into womens or little girls showers or into womens prisons is moronic idiocy.

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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #491 on: November 25, 2018, 09:12:15 pm »
Liberals are on the same side as Progressives. There is no airpsace between the position of Justin Trudeau and the transactivists and their progressive allies.

I didn't say Liberal, I said liberal.  Your understanding of these things is low.  You actually believe the Liberals are 'left'.  Too bad.

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« Reply #492 on: November 25, 2018, 09:14:38 pm »
No credible body — not the federal environmental commissioner, not nine of 10 provincial auditors general, not the United Nations, not the federal government’s own studies — endorses the view Canada is going to meet the greenhouse gas reduction targets Prime Minister Justin Trudeau agreed to in the Paris accord in 2015.

So the Liberals aren't as "left" as some say then.

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Same reason I oppose this trans ****, beyond the respect we'd give anyone to live their own life as they choose without harassment. But stupid ass ideas like letting men who claim to be women compete in sports events against women, or letting them force their way into womens or little girls showers or into womens prisons is moronic idiocy.

I get that that is your point of view.  I myself don't care what happens with rulings on womens' sports, specifically.  I really don't.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #493 on: November 25, 2018, 10:02:55 pm »
Meghan Murphy now banned from Twitter.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/meghan-murphy/

Considering that Twitter continually turns a blind eye to threats of **** and violence and all manner of hate speech, banning someone for writing "Men are not women" is pretty extraordinary.

The "Gendertrender" page has been banned from Wordpress as well.  The trans activists are handily winning the censorship battle.


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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #494 on: November 25, 2018, 10:07:07 pm »
  The trans activists are handily winning the censorship battle.
 

Guys - let me know if you need the liberals to help you out, k ?
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