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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1965 on: June 16, 2021, 10:59:22 am »
I suppose I could stalk my co-workers on social media. Why would I?  I used to work at a Microsoft tech support call center in Edmonton's Millwoods district where at least half of my coworkers were Muslim. I imagine that if I had cared enough I could have found which mosques they went to and found out if those mosques said misogynist or homophobic things. Why would I?

One of my current coworkers is an older lady. She goes to a far-right fringe church. She used to tell homophobic jokes around the office sometimes. I didn't say anything. I took my girlfriend to the office Christmas party a couple of years ago. After that she stopped telling homophobic jokes at the office. She asks how Lindsey is. She tried to make a funny one time--  I came to work with a bandage under my eye because of a skin issue, and she said "well, so she finally hit you."  I was kind of surprised, but shrugged it off.  Later on she came up to me and said "I'm sorry for what I said earlier. I was trying to make a joke but it was in bad taste."  I thanked her.

I can't make her agree with my life choices. I wouldn't try.

But, next time she is with her loony friends from the loony church and they start complaining about "the queers", she might say "you know, we have a gay girl at the office, and by gosh she is just as nice as you could imagine and she is just like everybody else."  She might say that.  She might not.   But if I searched her out on Facebook and found out she was posting homophobic jokes, and complained to my boss about it, she certainly wouldn't.  And I wouldn't win anything from doing that. Wouldn't change her attitude. Wouldn't inspire her to speak up to her friends.  Would probably just reinforce negative preconceptions she has. So why would I?  What would I gain from trying to police what a coworker might be saying on Facebook?

That's all real interesting like, but you didn't actually answer the question which wasn't about "stalking" people's social media or changing minds about gay people or whatever the hell else you're on about here,


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This is SAD and LOW ENERGY and I wouldn't normally waste the effort respond to something like this. But I do have to address a couple of things.

The first is that accusing people of transphobia just isn't the zinger you guys think it is. Not any more.  At this point pretty much any opinion held by normal sane people is transphobic to you guys, so who gives a crap anymore. At this point it's allegedly transphobic to say that males shouldn't be in women's sports, that males shouldn't be in women's prisons, that you don't think girls should have to shower or change with testicle-people, that you don't want "girldick" if you're a lesbian (or that you do want dick if you're a gay man) or that you think being a woman isn't a matter of clothes or makeup or "a feeling". If that's transphobic, then guilty as charged and I couldn't care less.

And second: I don't loathe trans people.  Not in general.  Certainly some of them I do loathe. Deranged activists like Chase Strangio and Dr Veronica Ivy, for example. Or the disgusting anime-obsessed Lolita-p0rn worshiping "transbian" incel creeps at 4chan and Reddit. Those people are just revolting.

But in general I don't hate trans people. Take "Pips" Bunce, for example. I don't hate Pips. Pips is just a gender non-conforming individual trying to find an outlet for his gender expression. I can't hate that. I'm gender non-conforming myself. I can't hate somebody for living outside the box. I completely empathize with a man who wants to be effeminate sometimes.

I don't hate Pips Bunce. What I do hate is that wokies expect us to believe that a guy who wears a dress to work twice a week is "a woman".

Pips Bunce isn't the nutcase. You guys are the nutcases.

Well, we've established already you're perfectly comfortable with the idea of working with social conservatives who hate you for the mutual cause of battling trans people so it's not surprising your response to the idea that you might have a lot in common with people who hate your guts for what you are is "so what and also it's very good."

And we've already established you have a terrible case of Internet Brain Poisoning and can no longer distinguish between what's real and what's Extremely Online and who has real power and who does not so anything you have to say on this entire subject area needs to be viewed in that lens.