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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1965 on: June 16, 2021, 08:06:54 am »
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1. I have no idea what you're talking about.   

2. you made up facts in regard to the Maya Forstater case. You posited an imaginary trans coworker who was subjected to imaginary harassment by Forstater. False. Erroneous. Fake news. You can't just make **** up to make your side sound more plausible.

3. Your claim that this ruling means someone could tell his female coworkers that women should speak only when spoken to, for example, is a load of crap.

4. What the ruling establishes is that the first judge erred in declaring that Forstater's views were "not worthy of respect" and therefore not a protected philosophical belief.

5. your complaint that the ruling means that "people who believe women shouldn't have the right to vote can now work at a lipstick store" is wildly off the mark because the lipstick store (or any other work environment) doesn't actually have any power to evaluate what you believe... only how you act.

6. And again... the notion that having a coworker who might have contrary beliefs is some kind of hardship is ... ridiculous.

7. The idea of working in an environment where everybody approves of each others' values is a luxury that most of us will never have, and I'm pretty much gobsmacked that you thought this was a serious criticism of the ruling. I'm just stunned that you could be that out of touch.


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1. "Are you so privileged that you can't imagine having to work alongside someone whose values differ from your own?"  My personal point of view should be discussed on its merits, not on my personal attributes thank you.

2. You're accusing me of lying ?  That's a new one.  Of course I didn't lie.  If I misunderstood something then I apologize.  I thought Black Dog stated something about this a few pages back.

3. I don't agree.  If it's one's "personal philosophy" and you state it in a non-harrassing way then it's ok apparently.

4. What is a 'protected philosophical belief' if it doesn't protect you from being fired ?  What are you protected from ?  Speech is already allowed, and can't be stopped by the government.

5. Not any more, no.

6. Having offensive beliefs was never the question, but expressing them public was.

7. You are making this personal for some reason.  Again let me state that I don't care either way, I really don't.  I just want clarity...