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Offline kimmy

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2017, 09:34:08 am »
Absolutely agree.  To get down to the details and mechanics of how reasonable accommodation works, honest, open and clear dialogue is the platform for discussion.

"I'm not comfortable with this" would not pass a test of needing to be accommodate.
"I am traumatized by this and feel unsafe" would pass.

Ok, so if we decide that some peoples' desire for a space free from male physiology is legitimate, then what next?  Do we appoint a gate-keeper or a panel or something to decide which women are allowed in and which aren't?

Say, **** victims and abuse victims and our hypothetical religion-based objector get allowed in?

That argument wouldn't fly if we were considering rights for other groups, so I can't buy it here.

It frames the demand differently, IMO.  "We need a safe space!" makes it sound as if they don't have any alternatives which doesn't appear to be true. "We demand access to this particular establishment" makes clear that this is about their objection to this particular establishment's policy, which to me appears to be a more accurate description of the conflict.

False choice - there are other options that could be explored I'm sure.

Ok, we've talked about three options-- let them continue as is, put an end to open nudity in their establishment, or let the dongs run wild and let the market decide if Body Blitz lives or dies.

What other possibilities do you envision?

Tagging people who disagree with you isn't helpful either.

Do you object to the characterization as "Social Justice Warriors", or the suggestion that people are after the proverbial pound of flesh?

 -k
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