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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2760 on: November 27, 2022, 07:56:57 pm »
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2761 on: November 28, 2022, 04:48:35 am »
Trolly

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2762 on: November 28, 2022, 09:27:32 am »
Trolly

It's all feels over reals for these dickheads.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2763 on: December 15, 2022, 04:14:45 pm »
Sam Harris discusses transgenderism and language with an apparent trans woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOhjx_Ldew

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« Reply #2764 on: December 15, 2022, 04:32:26 pm »
Sam Harris discusses transgenderism and language with an apparent trans woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOhjx_Ldew

5 minutes of talking and all he really says is there are extremes on both sides. Oh wow, man that's insightful.

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« Reply #2765 on: December 15, 2022, 04:48:20 pm »
5 minutes of talking and all he really says is there are extremes on both sides. Oh wow, man that's insightful.

Either youíre really not a smart person, or you didnít listen to what was said.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2766 on: December 15, 2022, 04:51:09 pm »
Either youíre really not a smart person, or you didnít listen to what was said.

I listened to the entire thing, there's no there there.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2767 on: December 16, 2022, 05:50:08 am »
I listened to the entire thing, there's no there there.

He drew the line to say we have to be able to use words so that we can talk about the issues themselves. If we ban words from being said then we're not going to make progress on the issues.

Of course it's not super deep, but we don't really have been with for those types of conversations of people are screaming at each other. It's clarity and geometry of the playing field for building rules for coexistence.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2768 on: December 16, 2022, 05:53:08 am »
The reason that's needed is that people are trying to change the moral sphere.  People who are used to the old ways should be given a chance to understand the change IMO

Ultimately they will lose out to what the majority wants, but it's better for social cohesion to try to unify even if the effort is doomed.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2769 on: December 16, 2022, 12:26:37 pm »
He drew the line to say we have to be able to use words so that we can talk about the issues themselves. If we ban words from being said then we're not going to make progress on the issues.

Of course it's not super deep, but we don't really have been with for those types of conversations of people are screaming at each other. It's clarity and geometry of the playing field for building rules for coexistence.

It hinges on a strawman that there are those who are trying to ban words when the opposite is occurring; the debate is around expanding the definitions of certain terms.


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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2770 on: December 16, 2022, 02:09:28 pm »
It hinges on a strawman that there are those who are trying to ban words when the opposite is occurring; the debate is around expanding the definitions of certain terms.

He says that - 'language changes all the time' - in his defense of NOT changing the definition or at least having a definition that matches the old meaning.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2771 on: December 16, 2022, 03:02:59 pm »
He says that - 'language changes all the time' - in his defense of NOT changing the definition or at least having a definition that matches the old meaning.

I've watched this three or four times now and TBH it's not all that clear what his point is beyond "we should be able to use the words men and women" and, like, ok? That's it? Also, who are the Taliban-defending leftists or the people who think they shouldn't put boy or girl on birth certificates or are destroying people's lives for using the term "woman?"

I don't think this is a great clip, but it's pretty funny how much stronger a communicator he is than Peterson.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2772 on: December 16, 2022, 03:32:35 pm »
I've watched this three or four times now and TBH it's not all that clear what his point is beyond "we should be able to use the words men and women" and, like, ok? That's it? Also, who are the Taliban-defending leftists or the people who think they shouldn't put boy or girl on birth certificates or are destroying people's lives for using the term "woman?"

I don't think this is a great clip, but it's pretty funny how much stronger a communicator he is than Peterson.

Like I say - I disagree with him on major items but his game is good enough.  I have no respect for Peterson outside of self-help, which I don't need from him anyway. 

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2773 on: December 19, 2022, 01:05:11 pm »

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2774 on: December 19, 2022, 02:54:00 pm »
Embarrassing video...

That's a drag queen.