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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2745 on: November 16, 2022, 04:01:04 pm »
Student dress codes are going away for the same reasons that this dress code isn't forthcoming.

They haven't navigated how to specify one without stepping on toes, to be generous.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2746 on: November 16, 2022, 04:15:18 pm »
So you think employers don’t have the legal rights to enforce a dress code, but do have the legal rights to enforce a medical procedure like a vaccination?  This is pure insanity. 

"Anti-vaxx dipshit" is not a protected identity like gender expression.

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Our society is going to complete s**t.

You're free to leave at anytime for someplace like Hungary but we all know you'll stick around no matter how bad you think it gets because you lack the courage of your convictions, like when you got jabbed so you could go to the gym, you cuck.
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Offline MH

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2747 on: November 16, 2022, 07:16:09 pm »
So you think employers don’t have the legal rights to enforce a dress code, but do have the legal rights to enforce a medical procedure like a vaccination?  This is pure insanity.  Our society is going to complete s**t.

Well I didn't say that.  And comparing to vaccine rules is pretty off topic... I guess my answer is I don't know.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2748 on: November 19, 2022, 12:41:26 pm »
Student dress codes are going away for the same reasons that this dress code isn't forthcoming.

You just linked to an article from an actual lawyer who just explained that Ontario labor code actually has a significant chunk of verbiage devoted to the issue of dress codes.

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Turning first to the shortcomings of the report, it does not consult a legal expert on the issue despite its stated intention to determine if the “imposition of a staff dress code would be permissible from a labour and employment law perspective.”

The report authored is by the Superintendent of Human Resources and the Director of Education, references the Ontario Human Rights Commission to support its finding dress codes are fraught with legal risk. In fact, the Commission devotes a sizable component of it’s website to the removal of sexualized and gender specific dress codes at work.

The Commission’s website states “sexualized dress codes reinforce stereoptical and sexist notions about women.” Specifically the Commission referred to a CBC Marketplace inquiry about restaurants where dress codes “that require female servers to wear short skirts, tight dresses, high heels and low cut tops to work.”

As a woman, I would venture to say that oversized prosthetic breasts reinforce stereotypical and sexist notions about women — especially in a school environment.

As a professional, I’m also required to follow a dress code. To attend court before a judge, I am required to wear a robe, a vest, pants or a skirt, a court shirt, and tabs. Even with the advent of zoom courtrooms, there is still an attire and etiquette protocol.

I have to point out how ludicrous it is that the Toronto Sun consulted the opinion of an actual lawyer for their opinion piece, but the Halton School Board couldn't be bothered to consult a lawyer during the course of their TWO MONTH review on this issue.  What a fucken joke, Michael, that the HDSB didn't consult a lawyer in the course of deciding whether they had any legal options in dealing with this issue.

The only conclusion that can be drawn is that the board wasn't interested in finding out whether they had any legal options, and were content with the preconceived assumption that they didn't.

 (another column, also by a lawyer, makes the same point as the Toronto Sun piece: https://financialpost.com/fp-work/halton-school-board-power-ban-trans-teachers-outfit-too-scared )


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A woman in the school suing someone... I don't think that would do anything.  Sometimes there's no way to deal with a dick.

I think that it would do two things.  First off, it would inspire the HSDB people to reconsider their options, with perhaps a new sense of urgency.

Second, it would remind people that the trans person is not the only one who has rights. Despite claiming to care about the dignity and inclusion of their female students and staff, it is clear that they do not.   Perhaps being brought before a Human Rights Tribunal over this would remind them that it's not only "the marginalized" who have rights.


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Offline MH

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2749 on: November 19, 2022, 02:04:33 pm »


1. I have to point out how ludicrous it is that the Toronto Sun consulted the opinion of an actual lawyer for their opinion piece, but the Halton School Board couldn't be bothered to consult a lawyer during the course of their TWO MONTH review on this issue. 

2. What a fucken joke, Michael, that the HDSB didn't consult a lawyer in the course of deciding whether they had any legal options in dealing with this issue.

3. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that the board wasn't interested in finding out whether they had any legal options, and were content with the preconceived assumption that they didn't.
 


 
1. It sure doesn't look like they did.
2. 3. Seems so.

All right, are we past the point where you try to pick a fight with me on this, no matter what I post about it?

If so, good.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2750 on: November 19, 2022, 02:22:42 pm »
All right, are we past the point where you try to pick a fight with me on this, no matter what I post about it?

uhhhh, maybe?

Your initial premise was that people shouldn't flip out over this because it would get "handled".  I think we're both in agreement now that it has not been "handled" in any satisfactory way, right?

So what should happen next?

I don't think that shrugging our shoulders and saying "the fates have decided" is acceptable, and I also don't think that sending bomb threats to the school is acceptable (there were two last week), so I don't know what happens next. A lawsuit from a female staffer or student is the only constructive option I can think of.

Any ideas?

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2751 on: November 19, 2022, 02:56:42 pm »
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2752 on: November 19, 2022, 05:51:37 pm »
Even if he's trolling?

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2753 on: November 23, 2022, 08:38:39 am »
Colorado shooter is non-binary! 😂
Wants to be referred to as they/them! 🤣

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2754 on: November 23, 2022, 08:56:04 am »
Even if he's trolling?

Especially if he's trolling.
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2755 on: November 23, 2022, 09:11:50 am »
Colorado shooter is non-binary! 😂
Wants to be referred to as they/them! 🤣
Not surprised shady would approve of mass-shooters' trolling antics

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2756 on: November 23, 2022, 09:37:16 am »
Colorado shooter is non-binary! 😂
Wants to be referred to as they/them! 🤣




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« Reply #2758 on: November 23, 2022, 09:45:14 am »
Not surprised shady would approve of mass-shooters' trolling antics
Not accepting someone's preferred pronouns is a hate crime.
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2759 on: November 23, 2022, 10:20:20 am »
This is apparently the shooter's IG account:



If you think a maniac who murdered a bunch of innocent people deciding to use they/them pronouns as a troll is funny/clever, you should get in your car, start the engine, close the garage door and take a nice long nap.
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