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Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2625 on: October 07, 2022, 07:32:24 pm »
Provided they are safe and effective and administered with the consent of all involved, why not?

You know most of the kids who get puberty blockers aren't ones who are confused about their genders, they're 8 year olds who are growing breasts and getting periods.
They’re not safe, and they can cause permanent damage to children.  I e said this navy times, leave children alone you piece of s**t f**king groomer.  You’re a sick f**k.

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« Reply #2626 on: October 07, 2022, 07:34:47 pm »
They’re not safe, and they can cause permanent damage to children.  I e said this navy times, leave children alone you piece of s**t f**king groomer.  You’re a sick f**k.

You having a stroke there, fuckface? I hope so.
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« Reply #2627 on: October 07, 2022, 07:44:04 pm »
Then how can you say Jon Stewart is awesome?

I like him.  But I wouldn't support giving minors puberty blockers.  It's insane.
Because I support the overwhelming consensus of medical professionals to make those decisions for me. It's insane that you think you know better.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2628 on: October 07, 2022, 07:45:16 pm »
They’re not safe, and they can cause permanent damage to children.  .
Cite?

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« Reply #2629 on: October 07, 2022, 07:49:10 pm »
Cite?

I've read some older stuff about Lupron having later in life side effects like reduced bone-density and chronic pain, but I have no idea how prevalent those side effects are or if there are many other options with fewer concerns. I can just about guarantee that, even if these drugs were perfectly safe, chuds like Shiddy would still be against using them.

Oh and the most recent data I've seen shows the number of kids getting puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria in the entire USA is just over 1,000.
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2630 on: October 07, 2022, 07:50:48 pm »
Sick f**ks in society these days want to experiment with children.  They need to be rounded up and thrown in jail for the rest of their lives.  There’s no room in our society for them.  None.

Puberty Blockers Not “Safe & Reversible” - Ministry Of Health
https://m.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO2209/S00147/puberty-blockers-not-safe-reversible-ministry-of-health.htm

And these drugs haven’t even been approved.  Yet the sick f**ks are stil bent on pushing these drugs on young vulnerable children.

life-altering treatments that have little scientific evidence of their long-term safety and efficacy.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-care/

Imagine pushing drugs that haven’t been studied long term, and haven’t been approved by the FDA.  Only partisan political sick f**ks, that value their political agenda over the lives of children would resort to advocating this grotesque procedure.

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« Reply #2631 on: October 07, 2022, 07:59:42 pm »
Is Scoop peer-reviewed?  😆

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2632 on: October 07, 2022, 08:07:46 pm »
Is Scoop peer-reviewed?  😆
Are puberty blockers?
Regardless, they’re just reporting on the ministry of health.  Try harder groomer.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2633 on: October 07, 2022, 08:15:18 pm »
Do you consider Jon Stewart to be a groomer because he's willing to listen to the AMA? Do you really think that's an argument that would resonate beyond your fellow halfwits?

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2634 on: October 07, 2022, 08:28:48 pm »
Shiddy is fudging things when he says that puberty blockers aren't FDA-approved.

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The only FDA-approved use for these drugs in children is for central precocious puberty, a condition in which children begin to sexually mature before age 8 or 9 because of pituitary gland dysfunction.

Also the evidence that there's serious and irreversible harms doesn't seem strong:

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In September, the FDA published a study that found “no evidence for an increased risk of fracture” for precocious puberty patients who take leuprolide, the generic name for AbbVie’s Lupron and similar drugs. However, the FDA study didn’t review cases of children who took the drug for gender dysphoria.

IDK why the side effects would be dramatically different depending on the reasons someone is taking a medication?

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Another concern about puberty blockers emerged in 2016, when the FDA ordered drugmakers to add a warning about psychiatric problems to the drugs’ label as a treatment for children with precocious puberty. On its label for Lupron, AbbVie says: “Psychiatric events have been reported in patients” taking puberty blockers. Events include emotional symptoms “such as crying, irritability, impatience, anger and aggression.”

The FDA pursued the label change after receiving 10 reports through its adverse event reporting system of children who had suicidal thoughts, including one suicide attempt, according to a Dec. 5, 2016, agency report reviewed by Reuters. One of the cases involved a 14-year-old patient taking Lupron for gender dysphoria, the records show. In the report, the FDA said suicidal ideation and depression are “serious events,” and there is “enough evidence to warrant informing prescribers, even in the face of uncertainty about causality.”

Is 10 a lot? Is that number any higher than what you'd see among kids in that age group not taking puberty blockers?

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Reuters found 72 adverse event reports submitted to the FDA from 2013 through 2021 of children on puberty blockers who showed suicidal, self-injurious, or depressive behavior. The children were taking the drug for central precocious puberty or gender dysphoria or were simply identified as under 18.

A Dec. 17, 2020, adverse event report to the FDA describes a 15-year-old patient taking Lupron for gender therapy. The patient had a history of “major depressive disorder” and a family history of depression. The patient experienced “mental health deterioration” while on Lupron and attempted suicide twice. AbbVie wrote in the report to the FDA that “there is no reasonable possibility” that the adverse events were related to Lupron. The company did not elaborate.

Again, is 72 over 8 years a lot compared to a regular sample?

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Dr Brad Miller, division director of pediatric endocrinology at the University of Minnesota Medical School and M Health Masonic Children’s Hospital, expressed surprise at the number of adverse event reports Reuters found. He said he was particularly concerned because doctors prescribe puberty blockers for transgender children, who are already at higher risk of mental health problems.

So are the blockers creating mental health problems, exacerbating existing ones or are people who take them simply more likely to have mental health problems already?

I also want to know how to these types of side effects compare with other commonly prescribed medications for children and youth?

Of course, all of this should be studied in depth, but the only way to do that would be to "experiment with children" which I'm told should be a crime.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2635 on: October 07, 2022, 08:39:13 pm »
Well it would be pretty pointless to use them on adults, now wouldn't it?

Why give them to anyone?
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2636 on: October 07, 2022, 08:49:58 pm »
So they don't kill themselves.

Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2637 on: October 07, 2022, 09:18:03 pm »
How long does it take for them to "do something" about it?

That's a good question, but not what The Sun was asking.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2638 on: October 07, 2022, 10:18:09 pm »
Provided they are safe and effective and administered with the consent of all involved, why not?

You know most of the kids who get puberty blockers aren't ones who are confused about their genders, they're 8 year olds who are growing breasts and getting periods.

Yes I know that.  But that would be a medical reason if needed.

I don't think doing it for cosmetic reasons is ethical.  It can have longterm effects on bone density, fertility etc.  It's bonkers.
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #2639 on: October 07, 2022, 10:24:36 pm »
Because I support the overwhelming consensus of medical professionals to make those decisions for me. It's insane that you think you know better.

And what do you think these puberty blockers do?  Do you know the longterm side effects?  Do you think blocking puberty artificially is healthy for an otherwise physically healthy person?

Would you also support breast implants for a depressed teen girl who has bad self-esteem issues because they have small breasts?  Or a nose job?

If certain doctors are insane then yes I do know better.
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