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« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2017, 12:03:31 pm »
So even if Christians sometimes incorporate aspects of their religion into law, it just isn't the same thing as the harshness and cruelty of Islamic law.

Sure, but your premise was that Christian lawmakers don't bring religion into the law, and clearly that's not true.

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« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2017, 12:58:00 pm »
Yeah the goal post definitely got moved on that one.
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« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2017, 04:47:47 pm »
Sure, but your premise was that Christian lawmakers don't bring religion into the law, and clearly that's not true.

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To be more precise, my premise was that Christians would not bring in the 'Christian equivalent' of Sharia law, principally because there IS no equivalent to Sharia. Someone mentioned Canon law, but as I posted, that relates to discipline within the Church and the worst punishment is excommunication. The Church has never developed a set of 'holy laws' for the behavior of the public at large. That doesn't mean uptight Christians haven't, over the years, let the morality they learned from the Church leach into the laws they write. But I never suggested that. I'm sure that even happens today in Texas or Georgia. But you know what, Texas and Georgia aren't Iran or Saudi Arabia. And I don't think they would want to be if they could.
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« Reply #243 on: October 10, 2017, 07:59:08 pm »
Douglas Murray and Sam Harris talk about the gender pronoun stuff. Kind of funny, in a way, or kind of sad. Murray is disgusted with it all and says this is what we'll all be talking about and arguing about and fighting about when the Islamists nuke us all.

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« Reply #244 on: November 12, 2017, 10:17:30 am »
A teacher in the UK accidentally called a girl who wants to be a boy a girl and may now be fired for it.

A teacher has been suspended and could face the sack after he ‘accidentally’ called a transgender pupil a ‘girl’ in class when the student identifies as a boy. Joshua Sutcliffe, 27, who teaches maths at a state secondary school in Oxfordshire, said ‘Well done girls’ to the teenager and a friend when he spotted them working hard.
He apologised when corrected by the pupil, but six weeks later he was suspended from teaching after the pupil’s mother lodged a complaint. Following an investigation, he has been summoned to a formal disciplinary hearing this week to face misconduct charges for ‘misgendering’.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073511/Teacher-suspended-praising-pupil-using-wrong-gender.html
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« Reply #245 on: November 12, 2017, 10:34:46 am »
A teacher in the UK accidentally called a girl who wants to be a boy a girl and may now be fired for it.

A teacher has been suspended and could face the sack after he ‘accidentally’ called a transgender pupil a ‘girl’ in class when the student identifies as a boy. Joshua Sutcliffe, 27, who teaches maths at a state secondary school in Oxfordshire, said ‘Well done girls’ to the teenager and a friend when he spotted them working hard.
He apologised when corrected by the pupil, but six weeks later he was suspended from teaching after the pupil’s mother lodged a complaint. Following an investigation, he has been summoned to a formal disciplinary hearing this week to face misconduct charges for ‘misgendering’.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073511/Teacher-suspended-praising-pupil-using-wrong-gender.html

A pound of flesh to pay for the outrage.  To make up for the horror.  Funds for the many years of therapy required to assuage the effects of this cruel atrocity must surely be forthcoming from the associated lawsuits.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #246 on: November 12, 2017, 10:41:58 am »
Something in England happened according to a British tabloid.

Therefore... something.  PC is madness ?  Who knows.
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« Reply #247 on: November 12, 2017, 10:56:05 am »
Something in England happened according to a British tabloid.

Therefore... something.  PC is madness ?  Who knows.

Is it possible to comment on a single ridiculous outrage?  Or are we tarring all transgender students with the same brush?  Or their mothers, to be more precise?

Do you think someone should lose their job over that?

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« Reply #248 on: November 12, 2017, 11:23:38 am »
Is it possible to comment on a single ridiculous outrage? 

Of course.  If I post something about pervasive and systemic abuse of the legal system.  Then I post something about a single person who did something bad, then why am I posting ?  What are the audiences ? 

Posting because you are pissed off at a caricature idiot is fine, but people don't/won't care about it as much as a larger issue. 

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Do you think someone should lose their job over that?

Over a slip of the tongue ?  Of course not.  But it's outrage **** from a tabloid.   Maybe a Senator who slept with an underage person is an isolated incident of more importance, in the domain of etiquette.

How about a separate forum for outrage **** ?  That might help actually.  And to be fair there's liberal stuff in there too, maybe more maybe less.   

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« Reply #249 on: November 12, 2017, 11:30:12 am »
Of course.  If I post something about pervasive and systemic abuse of the legal system.  Then I post something about a single person who did something bad, then why am I posting ?  What are the audiences ? 

Posting because you are pissed off at a caricature idiot is fine, but people don't/won't care about it as much as a larger issue. 

Over a slip of the tongue ?  Of course not.  But it's outrage **** from a tabloid.   Maybe a Senator who slept with an underage person is an isolated incident of more importance, in the domain of etiquette.

How about a separate forum for outrage **** ?  That might help actually.  And to be fair there's liberal stuff in there too, maybe more maybe less.

Outrage ****?  Don't report it then?

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« Reply #250 on: November 12, 2017, 11:36:50 am »
Outrage ****?  Don't report it then?

To the mods ?  I haven't reported it.  It's fair game, I suppose, but it's just a different type of discussion in my books.  If I could get some kind of token by admitting to a liberal one to get a conservative one off the board I would love that...

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« Reply #251 on: November 12, 2017, 11:47:46 am »
To the mods ?  I haven't reported it.  It's fair game, I suppose, but it's just a different type of discussion in my books.  If I could get some kind of token by admitting to a liberal one to get a conservative one off the board I would love that...

To the mods?  Good one.  Who says you don't have a sense of humour?


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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #252 on: November 12, 2017, 11:50:10 am »
To the mods?  Good one.  Who says you don't have a sense of humour?

I'm totally confused.  "Outrage **** ?  Don't report it then ?" - dunno what that means, nor this latest one.  Ok, I just missed the bus.  Moving on.

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« Reply #253 on: November 12, 2017, 11:52:46 am »
I'm totally confused.

No you're not.  You're pretending to be.

Just my opinion.  No cites.

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #254 on: November 12, 2017, 11:58:50 am »
No you're not.  You're pretending to be.

Just my opinion.  No cites.

Well you are accusing me of lying.  Do you think I lie a lot, or.... ?