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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1920 on: June 04, 2021, 08:22:30 pm »
This reminds me a lot of the abortion debate, a bunch of men trying to enforce rules for women.

Jee, where have I seen that posted ?

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« Reply #1922 on: June 04, 2021, 08:47:59 pm »
I can also say that people's lives don't depend on pro sports or sports at all

You can say it but it wouldn't be true.
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« Reply #1923 on: June 04, 2021, 09:55:52 pm »
You can say it but it wouldn't be true.

Explain?


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« Reply #1925 on: June 04, 2021, 10:18:35 pm »
Explain?
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I think you need to explain your comment.
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1926 on: June 04, 2021, 10:26:03 pm »
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Explain?

No, just kidding, I know what you mean.  But unless she tried to round up a mob with pitchforks and torches to hunt some people down and kill them, I really do despair for my country.

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« Reply #1927 on: June 04, 2021, 11:24:54 pm »
Freedom of speech is on shakey ground these days.
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« Reply #1928 on: June 05, 2021, 05:10:47 am »
d

I think you need to explain your comment.

The argument has been made that accepting fire fighters above a minimum line, versus the strongest and best means that the overall provision of human strength is less.

I can agree with this.

Fire services assist in life and death situations.

Sports are entertainments.

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« Reply #1929 on: June 05, 2021, 05:13:34 am »
Freedom of speech is on shakey ground these days.

Is it?

What actually happened?  That article fails to reveal why precisely she was charged, or enough about what she said.

I'm absolutely in agreement that something looks amiss, but I will wait until details come out before making a conclusion.

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« Reply #1930 on: June 05, 2021, 09:17:41 am »
The argument has been made that accepting fire fighters above a minimum line, versus the strongest and best means that the overall provision of human strength is less.

I can agree with this.

Fire services assist in life and death situations.

Sports are entertainments.

Sports provide incomes for 100,000’s of thousands if not millions of people. Who are you to decide what is important to others and what they can or can’t  do, particularly what women can or can’t do. 
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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1931 on: June 05, 2021, 09:45:32 am »
Sports provide incomes for 100,000’s of thousands if not millions of people. Who are you to decide what is important to others and what they can or can’t  do, particularly what women can or can’t do.

My point isn't what is important or not to others.  Quotas were controversial and this was important, that much is sure.

And I am supporting my point that culture drives such discussions. Are you disputing that?

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« Reply #1932 on: June 05, 2021, 01:16:44 pm »
My point isn't what is important or not to others.  Quotas were controversial and this was important, that much is sure.

And I am supporting my point that culture drives such discussions. Are you disputing that?

Culture may drive discussions but it doesn't change biology.
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« Reply #1933 on: June 05, 2021, 01:24:57 pm »
1. Culture may drive discussions
2. but it doesn't change biology.

1. I'm glad you concur
2. I concur

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Re: Gender Culture
« Reply #1934 on: June 05, 2021, 02:28:14 pm »
Sometimes I despair for my country.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/04/gender-critical-feminist-charged-over-allegedly-transphobic-tweets

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Marion Millar was arrested for this tweet, which a man named David Paisley reported to the police under the claim that it was a threat.


Does that really look like a noose? It's not even big enough to hang a chihuahua, and it's made of ribbon, not rope.  Perhaps Paisley was afraid Millar intended to hang his chihuahua?  Is that why he felt threatened?  Regardless, it's not a noose, it's a suffragette ribbon.


In the UK, the one on the right is a hate crime, and the one on the left is brave and stunning activism:


Since the arrest women in Scotland have been tying suffragette ribbons to practically everything.  I anticipate that this case is going to trigger a huge backlash.  In March at more or less the same time police were pulling Sarah Everard's body out of the woods in Kent, the Scottish National Party was passing a new hate crime bill that they promised wouldn't be used to silence controversial speech. Now we can see how that's going.

(also, for reference, the Scottish National Party logo, which totally does not at all look like a noose!)



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