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« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2022, 11:24:33 pm »
Seems like late-stage capitalism and the inevitable devastating result of conservatives' endless tax cuts. He could have given $1M to every American and still had billions left over. He could have solved world hunger and stopped the pandemic in its tracks. He could gave done great work to mitigate climate change. Instead he bought an app.

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« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2022, 11:33:40 pm »
Seems like late-stage capitalism and the inevitable devastating result of conservatives' endless tax cuts. He could have given $1M to every American and still had billions left over. He could have solved world hunger and stopped the pandemic in its tracks. He could gave done great work to mitigate climate change. Instead he bought an app.

Clearly, a guy who paid $44 billion for a website can't be as smart as people thought he was.

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« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2022, 11:37:42 pm »
I just deleted my Twitter account. **** Musk.

omg now I love Elon Musk.





I still think the Model Y looks stupid though.

Same reason I didn’t buy a Tesla even though I loved how it drives (talked my mom out of buying one too).

At the time you told us it was because somebody you knew had a terrible customer service experience with their Tesla.

**** Musk seriously. Something very wrong with a forum like Twitter going private.

Twitter (and Facebook, and whatever else) all started out private.  Where did the idea that they're a public utility come from?


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Re: Elon Musk
« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2022, 11:41:49 pm »
Seems like late-stage capitalism and the inevitable devastating result of conservatives' endless tax cuts. He could have given $1M to every American and still had billions left over. He could have solved world hunger and stopped the pandemic in its tracks. He could gave done great work to mitigate climate change. Instead he bought an app.

Well to be fair, it's probably the most powerful app in western civilization and has had pretty big implications for our society.  He's also already doing more to fight climate change than 99.9% of the population, if not just about anyone in the West if not the world.  He owns leading edge EV and solar panel companies etc.

You just don't like the guy and he threatens your political agenda.  I mean fine whatever, and he's a bit of an arse.  Personally i think its better as a public company but i guess we'll see.
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« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2022, 11:53:19 pm »
What do they think they're going to fight?  Is Elon going to bring Nazi's onto the platform or something?

Genuinely curious what people are expecting to happen.   Just saw this tweet from a Toronto Star columnist:



Like... does she not know that everybody in the world could already read those tweets?

People are acting like they're expecting Musk to instate a real-life version of those "The Purge" movies.

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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2022, 12:13:49 am »
At the time you told us it was because somebody you knew had a terrible customer service experience with their Tesla.

Twitter (and Facebook, and whatever else) all started out private.  Where did the idea that they're a public utility come from?


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It was the manufacturing not customer service. The guy did spook me but while I cancelled the deposit I still was undecided what to get. I always found Musk annoying but went on to find him abhorrent during the freedumb protests when he backed the truckers and compared Trudeau to Hitler (I even say that as someone who hates Trudeau). That was the nail on the coffin and by the time my mom’s lease came up I went full campaign against Musk, not Tesla.

As for the public forum, um I believe that was Musk who said Twitter is like a townhall.

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« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2022, 12:19:15 am »
What do they think they're going to fight?  Is Elon going to bring Nazi's onto the platform or something?

I don’t know, maybe, probably. For me it’s more about boycotting any businesses owned by Musk. See my previous post for elaboration.

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« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2022, 09:18:54 am »

Twitter (and Facebook, and whatever else) all started out private.  Where did the idea that they're a public utility come from?


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That's the problem, all the major platforms and much of media is either owned by or being gobbled up by mega billionaires. I don't know how anyone can think that is a good thing, or good for free speech.
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« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2022, 11:20:30 am »
That's the problem, all the major platforms and much of media is either owned by or being gobbled up by mega billionaires. I don't know how anyone can think that is a good thing, or good for free speech.

There's a segment of people on the right who are pretty up front about their desire to replace democracy with, essentially, a dictatorship of rich tech bros.

The Politics of Tech Oligarchy

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Twitter is a notoriously bad business and Musk’s project is explicitly political: he says he wants to restore “free speech” to the platform, through the loosening of content moderation policies. Tech oligarchs, like Musk, Thiel, and Marc Andreesen, resent the control of the content moderation on the social media platforms by what they see as overly “woke” members of the professional-managerial class in both the media and in the lower-ranking staffs of the tech companies themselves. Unimpeachable in principle, in practice “free speech” would likely mean a return to the platform of the kind of trolling that dominated the space in 2015-2016, during Trump’s election. There would probably be an increase in harassment of left-leaning journalists and activists and a general “flooding of the zone with ****.”

Figures on the far right, like Tucker Carlson and the Claremont Institute’s chief Ryan Williams were already reveling in the news. The right wing’s use of social media for marshaling McCarthyite demagogic campaigns is already meeting with some success, like for instance with Chris Rufo’s assaults on “Critical Race Theory” and L.G.B.T rights. In the absence of content moderation, the ferocity of such mob activity could step up.
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« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2022, 11:26:50 am »
Genuinely curious what people are expecting to happen.   Just saw this tweet from a Toronto Star columnist:



Like... does she not know that everybody in the world could already read those tweets?

People are acting like they're expecting Musk to instate a real-life version of those "The Purge" movies.

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The derangement of the anti-Musk crowd knows no bounds.  They really do need professional help.  I think it's part of the psychosis of living in an echo chamber for so long.

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« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2022, 11:28:44 am »
There's a segment of people on the right who are pretty up front about their desire to replace democracy with, essentially, a dictatorship of rich tech bros.

The Politics of Tech Oligarchy
Right, the fact that most tech is controlled by left of center oligarch's is fine, but OMG one isn't now, it's the end of democracy!  You really do need professional help.

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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2022, 11:30:03 am »
I must admit that Twitter content seems to have improved.
https://twitter.com/KnowNothingTV/status/1518658898143715329?t=xBrsiwVI5-Im6woZvh6ZQA&s=19

Don't forget when he promised to fix all the water pipes in Flint, Michigan and ended up just donating some water filters to a few schools.

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« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2022, 11:31:38 am »
Right, the fact that most tech is controlled by left of center oligarch's is fine, but OMG one isn't now, it's the end of democracy!  You really do need professional help.

I guess when you're an extreme right wing nut like you, centre-right billionaire oligarchs like Bezos or Zuckerberg look like loony leftists, but that's entirely a "you" problem as in "you are completely disconnected from reality."
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« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2022, 11:47:06 am »
I guess when you're an extreme right wing nut like you, centre-right billionaire oligarchs like Bezos or Zuckerberg look like loony leftists, but that's entirely a "you" problem as in "you are completely disconnected from reality."
Yes, centre-right billionaires that continue to censor conservative voices.  It's funny that you support such billionaries, and them controlling 90% of the internet and social media just isn't enough for you.  Like any fascist, you must control everything, as even a little bit of dissent is threatening.