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Education Culture
« on: October 01, 2020, 08:01:47 pm »
I've begun a BA in History at Athabasca, just because. 

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 02:50:16 pm »
In an admission of failure, this is harder than I thought and I have to put it on hold for a bit. I'm really a lot busier than I thought.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 03:27:35 pm »
In an admission of failure, this is harder than I thought and I have to put it on hold for a bit. I'm really a lot busier than I thought.

Hope you can get back to it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 06:38:58 pm »
I've begun a BA in History at Athabasca, just because.

This is great.

I would consider how much the economic value of the degree is to you.  Having been through university, i know that the majority of the dollar value of the degree is in the piece of paper you receive and what economic/career opportunities you can do with that.  The large majority of the actual knowledge obtained at the university in arts/social sciences disciplines is obtained through the books/articles you read, with lectures summarizing and expanding on it.  Anyone can obtain this knowledge for $10 in late fees at the library.  Course outlines (with the readings) are often posted online at different universities.  I've made a habit of picking up used textbooks here and there and learning on my own.

But if the 20-30k or whatnot for the degree is of value to you for whatever reasons you decide then that's great, wish you the best if you decide to sign up!
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 07:53:15 pm »
This is great.

I would consider how much the economic value of the degree is to you.  Having been through university, i know that the majority of the dollar value of the degree is in the piece of paper you receive and what economic/career opportunities you can do with that.  The large majority of the actual knowledge obtained at the university in arts/social sciences disciplines is obtained through the books/articles you read, with lectures summarizing and expanding on it.  Anyone can obtain this knowledge for $10 in late fees at the library.  Course outlines (with the readings) are often posted online at different universities.  I've made a habit of picking up used textbooks here and there and learning on my own.

But if the 20-30k or whatnot for the degree is of value to you for whatever reasons you decide then that's great, wish you the best if you decide to sign up!

On the one side, formalized education sucks in some ways because of the organized structure. On the other side, there's a reason it's like that, and learning the humanities would make us all smarter and more compassionate. It would also teach us better critical thinking skills.
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Re: Education Culture
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 07:54:44 pm »
Hope you can get back to it.

I will. I was in too much of a hurry to begin, and started with the wrong course. The pre confederation history I was taking puts all of your learning into two massive assignments, and one massive exam. I feel it was a bad place to start from.

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2023, 12:32:08 pm »
This was what liberal education was seen as in 1970.



By the way that's actually Los Angeles High School

Some Alumni:

Johnny Cochrane
Ray Bradbury
Dustin Hoffman
Piper Laurie
George Takei

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2023, 03:37:29 pm »
John Oliver of the mind boggling world of home schooling...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI&list=WL&index=30

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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2023, 06:32:12 pm »
John Oliver of the mind boggling world of home schooling...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI&list=WL&index=30

One more indication of how the US is going down the tube and why countries like China which value education will overtake it. Kind of scary to watch.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2023, 06:39:46 pm »
One of the dumber kids I knew growing up who became a Moon-landing denier and anti-vax Trumper home schools his kids because he doesn't trust the public school system. And because no one will hire him, so he has time to spend pretending to be teaching them something.

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2023, 06:58:19 pm »
One of the dumber kids I knew growing up who became a Moon-landing denier and anti-vax Trumper home schools his kids because he doesn't trust the public school system. And because no one will hire him, so he has time to spend pretending to be teaching them something.

His children are going to be messed up.

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2023, 08:09:23 pm »
One more indication of how the US is going down the tube and why countries like China which value education will overtake it. Kind of scary to watch.

The piece said 2M students in home school, my maths say that is 4%.

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2023, 10:47:21 pm »
The piece said 2M students in home school, my maths say that is 4%.

I'm not anti home schooling on principle but there needs to be standards. Kids deserve a decent education regardless of what their idiot parents may think.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2023, 05:17:18 am »
I'm not anti home schooling on principle but there needs to be standards. Kids deserve a decent education regardless of what their idiot parents may think.

At the heart of recent controversies is the term " parents rights".

It brings forward an image of a bureaucrat trying to interfere with loving parenting, however parental abuse is something that the system exists to prevent ... As a representative, Republican, says in the piece.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2023, 08:23:38 am »
I'm not anti home schooling on principle but there needs to be standards. Kids deserve a decent education regardless of what their idiot parents may think.
If schools stuck to teaching the necessities, like science, math, history, reading, writing, etc, there wouldn't be such a big trend of home schooling.  The trend was accelerated when schools closed down for long periods of time during covid.