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« Reply #390 on: April 05, 2022, 10:18:13 am »
I suppose but that's 6 million hours of video a month. How log to you keep it? Even compressed you are talking about huge files.

Who said you have to keep every single minute forever? Also, they aren't recording every minute of every shift, but only interactions with the public/suspects.

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« Reply #391 on: April 05, 2022, 11:04:13 pm »
Who said you have to keep every single minute forever? Also, they aren't recording every minute of every shift, but only interactions with the public/suspects.


Not forever but it can easily take two years for cases to get to court in this country.

So the officers will just be turning them on at their discretion.
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« Reply #392 on: April 05, 2022, 11:28:09 pm »
This has been done throughout the US, it's a lot better than nothing.
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« Reply #393 on: April 06, 2022, 09:20:57 am »
This has been done throughout the US, it's a lot better than nothing.

Things like privacy laws are different in Canada so don’t expect rules surrounding it to be the same. I am in favour of their use however because I think they will show police acted correctly in the great majority of cases.
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« Reply #394 on: April 06, 2022, 09:49:39 am »

Not forever but it can easily take two years for cases to get to court in this country.

So the officers will just be turning them on at their discretion.

then they should be fired.

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« Reply #395 on: April 06, 2022, 10:00:09 am »
then they should be fired.

So they will have to be on all the time. Make up your mind.

For police haters it won't make any difference. If the cameras don't show what they want, they will just make up excuses why they don't.
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« Reply #396 on: April 06, 2022, 10:01:53 am »
You could say that about all forms of accountability.

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« Reply #397 on: April 06, 2022, 10:04:10 am »
So they will have to be on all the time. Make up your mind.

No the cameras would have to be on anytime they are interacting with the public. We don't need six hours of footage of someone sleeping in their patrol car.

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For police haters it won't make any difference. If the cameras don't show what they want, they will just make up excuses why they don't.

We've seen what cops do when they know body cams are on or they are being filmed, one can only imagine how they behave when they aren't being recorded.

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« Reply #398 on: April 06, 2022, 12:25:40 pm »
Illinois Police Officer Resigns After White Supremacist Posts Surface Online

Some of those who work forces etc etc. Hopefully this guy goes into his garage and [redacted] himself in the head.

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« Reply #399 on: April 06, 2022, 01:07:15 pm »
No the cameras would have to be on anytime they are interacting with the public. We don't need six hours of footage of someone sleeping in their patrol car.

We've seen what cops do when they know body cams are on or they are being filmed, one can only imagine how they behave when they aren't being recorded.

You keep outing yourself by doing exactly what I said you would.
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« Reply #400 on: April 06, 2022, 01:12:17 pm »
You keep outing yourself by doing exactly what I said you would.

You think it be like that but it don't.

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« Reply #401 on: April 06, 2022, 01:27:52 pm »
Illinois Police Officer Resigns After White Supremacist Posts Surface Online

Some of those who work forces etc etc. Hopefully this guy goes into his garage and [redacted] himself in the head.

You continually post articles from the US. Can’t find much local it would seem.
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« Reply #402 on: April 06, 2022, 02:08:26 pm »
You continually post articles from the US. Can’t find much local it would seem.

So what?


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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #403 on: April 11, 2022, 10:17:52 am »
Great example here of cops getting caught on camera (including their body cams) f*cking someone up and walking away because the system is designed to let cops off.

Buffalo cops who pushed protester Martin Gugino to ground cleared of wrongdoing

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Torgalski and McCabe testified before the arbitrator that they were trying to protect themselves and denied that they were trying to hurt Gugino during the protest.

The officers’ use of physical force was “absolutely legitimate,” wrote Selchick, who added that, in his analysis, Gugino was “definitely not an innocent bystander.”

The arbitrator said the officers testified that they were only trying to move Gugino out of their “personal space” and physically keep Gugino away from their weapons.
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He noted that Torgalski testified that he was concerned that Gugino was getting close to his police firearm. The officer said he was also worried that he might catch the Covid-19 virus from Gugino.

“Something wasn’t right and I don’t know what this gentlemen is capable of, but something (was) off about the situation that makes you feel uneasy,” the arbitrator quoted Torgalski as testifying.


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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #404 on: April 11, 2022, 10:22:46 am »
Oh and since wilber is so insistent that I find more Canadian examples of shitty cops, here's one about a city police service that is so racist people are calling for the whole thing to be disbanded

Report urges more re-investigations into deaths of Indigenous people in Thunder Bay, On

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The chair of the police board in Thunder Bay, Ont. has apologized to families following the completion of a report that re-examined the deaths of multiple Indigenous people and recommended investigations into more than a dozen other cases.

Ontario's Officer of the Chief Coroner released a report Thursday detailing the re-investigations of nine sudden deaths of Indigenous people in Thunder Bay.
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The latest report is in response to some of the dozens of recommendations made in the Office of the Independent Police Review Director's examination of the Thunder Bay Police Service, entitled "Broken Trust," that was released in 2018.

The office found the service's failure to adequately investigate certain cases was in part due to "racist attitudes and racial stereotyping."

It also concluded that the sudden death investigations it reviewed were so "problematic" that at least nine should be reinvestigated.

"I find systemic racism exists in TBPS at an institutional level," then-director Gerry McNeilly said.