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« Reply #300 on: June 28, 2021, 11:39:09 am »
Of course they are linked. Prices are always linked to costs. What world do you live in?

Again, a profitable business like WalMart has the option of eating that cost. They choose not to in order to make more money, therefore the profit motive and not the shoplifiting is tho blame for the increased costs.

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« Reply #301 on: June 28, 2021, 12:00:11 pm »
Again, a profitable business like WalMart has the option of eating that cost. They choose not to in order to make more money, therefore the profit motive and not the shoplifiting is tho blame for the increased costs.

You do live in a strange world. Costs are costs. Period.
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« Reply #302 on: June 28, 2021, 02:22:28 pm »
You do live in a strange world. Costs are costs. Period.

He’s not wrong…. They could just “soak it up” and take less profit.  I’ve seen no evidence of their business strategy either way….   Maybe they already do this.

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« Reply #303 on: June 28, 2021, 02:49:01 pm »
He’s not wrong…. They could just “soak it up” and take less profit.  I’ve seen no evidence of their business strategy either way….   Maybe they already do this.

Why would they just "soak up" those costs and not others? Are thieves deserving of some special consideration?
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« Reply #304 on: June 28, 2021, 03:29:52 pm »
Why would they just "soak up" those costs and not others? Are thieves deserving of some special consideration?

No, not to benefit thieves…. And I didn’t say they are allowing it to happen.  But they can undercut their competitors if they can keep prices lower than others.  That’s their whole schtick….

Rather than making it up by raising prices, they are more likely to make it up by forcing China to use more child labour.  That’s the Walmart way…

So BlackDog’s idea that thievery from Walmart is OK probably means even more horrific working conditions for their foreign suppliers.   But as long as the shoplifters are happy….  And as long as BlackDog doesn’t actually see the negative side effects of it, all is well.   Cuz screw Walmart.
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« Reply #305 on: June 28, 2021, 04:52:57 pm »
Rather than making it up by raising prices, they are more likely to make it up by forcing China to use more child labour.  That’s the Walmart way…

How does Walmart force China to use more child labour?  How do they force China to do anything?

Walmart is going to try to reduce its costs anyway it can regardless of how much of how much theft happens in their stores.

Walmart has a gazillion shareholders, including many regular people saving for their retirement in their RRSPs and 401ks.  The thieves are stealing from them, the rich investors, consumers via increased costs etc.
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« Reply #306 on: June 28, 2021, 05:13:25 pm »
How do they force China to do anything?

Do you really have such little imagination that you can’t think of ways a big corporation would force places into terrible working conditions?

Here’s one example:
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The report also says that Walmart (WMT) "refused" to sign the Accord on Fire and Building Safety, a pact by 190 clothing brands as well as trade unions to inspect factories for fire, electrical and structural safety. Gap didn't join the accord, either. Instead, Walmart and Gap formed a group called the Alliance for Bangladesh Worker Safety.
https://money.cnn.com/2016/05/31/news/companies/walmart-gap-hm-garment-workers-asia/index.html

Walmart doesn’t sign onto a safety pact for fires….  Which means the factories they use can undercut other factories because they don’t spend money on fire safety. 

Do you need other examples?

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« Reply #307 on: June 29, 2021, 11:00:33 am »
You do live in a strange world. Costs are costs. Period.

And the decision to pass costs on to consumers in higher prices is a choice. period.

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« Reply #308 on: June 29, 2021, 11:01:51 am »
How does Walmart force China to use more child labour?  How do they force China to do anything?

Walmart is going to try to reduce its costs anyway it can regardless of how much of how much theft happens in their stores.

Walmart has a gazillion shareholders, including many regular people saving for their retirement in their RRSPs and 401ks.  The thieves are stealing from them, the rich investors, consumers via increased costs etc.

The thieves are stealing from WalMart, the company is stealing from consumers.
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« Reply #309 on: June 29, 2021, 02:02:34 pm »
And the decision to pass costs on to consumers in higher prices is a choice. period.

No, they just make working conditions worse in Asia to cover the costs of thefts. 

Do you still think there’s no victim?

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« Reply #310 on: June 29, 2021, 02:33:45 pm »
No, they just make working conditions worse in Asia to cover the costs of thefts. 

Do you still think there’s no victim?

Why would you think they would change how they deal with working conditions based on the level of theft?  They're profit-maximizing no matter what.
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« Reply #311 on: June 29, 2021, 04:03:02 pm »
No, they just make working conditions worse in Asia to cover the costs of thefts. 

Do you still think there’s no victim?

*company does something bad to squeeze out even more profits*

you: damn shoplifters!
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« Reply #312 on: June 29, 2021, 04:59:05 pm »
No, not to benefit thieves…. And I didn’t say they are allowing it to happen.  But they can undercut their competitors if they can keep prices lower than others.  That’s their whole schtick….

Rather than making it up by raising prices, they are more likely to make it up by forcing China to use more child labour.  That’s the Walmart way…

So BlackDog’s idea that thievery from Walmart is OK probably means even more horrific working conditions for their foreign suppliers.   But as long as the shoplifters are happy….  And as long as BlackDog doesn’t actually see the negative side effects of it, all is well.   Cuz screw Walmart.


Yeah dude poor Walmart would never resort to anything like using foreign sweatshops, stealing employee wages and benefits and destroying local businesses if it wasn't for the dang shoplifters. I too was born yesterday.

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« Reply #313 on: June 29, 2021, 05:02:06 pm »
*company does something bad to squeeze out even more profits*

you: damn shoplifters!

Walmart - we need to make up a billion dollars in theft….  Raise prices?  Naw, we should make sure we save more money by not installing sprinklers at our factories in Bangladesh.

You:  shoplifting is a victimless crime.
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« Reply #314 on: June 30, 2021, 10:46:56 am »
Walmart - we need to make up a billion dollars in theft…. Raise prices?  Naw, we should make sure we save more money by not installing sprinklers at our factories in Bangladesh.

You:  shoplifting is a victimless crime.

There's your trouble: you're removing agency from the highly profitable mega corporation and casting them as helpless victims of people palming pregnancy tests. Incredibly cucked behaviour.
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