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« Reply #105 on: March 13, 2021, 09:26:53 am »
Do cops ever consider someone overly compliant? I thought the compliance was why they applied for the job in the first place.

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« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2021, 10:31:48 am »
Do cops ever consider someone overly compliant? I thought the compliance was why they applied for the job in the first place.

Do you assume the same for anyone who has some sort of position of authority?
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« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2021, 12:15:53 pm »
Do you assume the same for anyone who has some sort of position of authority?
Depends on the position and how much authority, but yes. I think people generally pursue power for its own sake, not so much to spread peace and joy.

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« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2021, 12:27:55 pm »
Depends on the position and how much authority, but yes. I think people generally pursue power for its own sake, not so much to spread peace and joy.

Some people just want to serve their communities.
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« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2021, 12:40:17 pm »
Agreed.  I hate interacting with cops and they seem to instantly recognize me as being overly compliant and thus hate talking to me too.  I don't think I have spent more than 10 seconds at a RIDE stop - they just whisk me through.  They can smell the legality.

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« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2021, 03:52:48 pm »
Some people just want to serve their communities.

And some don't.  Hence middle fingers and obscenities.
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« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2021, 03:58:13 pm »
Agreed.  I hate interacting with cops and they seem to instantly recognize me as being overly compliant and thus hate talking to me too.  I don't think I have spent more than 10 seconds at a RIDE stop - they just whisk me through.  They can smell the legality.

Cops frequently insist citizens to do things they don't legally have to do, like show them their ID with no probable cause of committing a crime, or sometimes a request to search a vehicle.
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« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2021, 05:39:34 pm »
Not a great idea but on the other hand, no one has the right to stand six inches from you screaming obscenities into your face. I don't see why police or any other first responders should have to put up with it while they are trying to do their job. It will depend on how it is applied, courts should set a high bar for convictions.

Yes they do.

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« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2021, 05:53:14 pm »
Over on pervert island, a woman disappeared and was later found murdered. The suspect is a cop.

Today there was a vigil in the park where Sarah Everard's body was found.

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The evening began in grief and silence, as hundreds gathered to remember Sarah Everard and call for changes that will keep others safe. It ended in fury and violence, as police trampled flowers and candles laid out in memory of Everard, trying to silence women speaking out to honour her.

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« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2021, 06:10:32 pm »
Yes they do.
I think anyone would have a right to stop someone from doing that especially now given the awareness of how easy it is to become infected with a life threatening disease.  I'm pretty sure screaming obscenities in the face of a cop from 6" away would result in an assault charge - after you'd been thrown to the ground and cuffed of course.

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« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2021, 06:18:58 pm »
I think anyone would have a right to stop someone from doing that especially now given the awareness of how easy it is to become infected with a life threatening disease.  I'm pretty sure screaming obscenities in the face of a cop from 6" away would result in an assault charge - after you'd been thrown to the ground and cuffed of course.

Demonstrators do it fairly often and they don't react.
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« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2021, 06:20:39 pm »
Demonstrators do it fairly often and they don't react.

This makes it a virtual guarantee that they will escalate the situation, when perhaps there are better outcomes if they didn’t react to such provocation.

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« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2021, 06:35:18 pm »
This makes it a virtual guarantee that they will escalate the situation, when perhaps there are better outcomes if they didn’t react to such provocation.

They usually don't react.
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« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2021, 07:28:08 pm »
Cops have zero right to not have their feelings hurt.  The only time I think something might be able to be done is if they are screaming in their face where they could damage their hearing, which is kind of assault, or things as I've mentioned like disturbing the peace, which should have a high bar. 

Citizens should be able to protest the government with free speech.  Everyone should have the right to tell an MP or police officer to get effed.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2021, 07:43:17 pm »
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