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« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2021, 09:58:53 pm »
Anyone can smell marijuana, it smells like you just walked into a patch of skunk cabbage.

Yes...   cops can smell it even when itís not there....   thatís how amazing their senses are!
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« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2021, 10:08:17 pm »
If a cop claimed to smell marijuana in my car and i wasn't smoking i'd request an MJ saliva test before they put one finger in my car.  I simply wouldn't open my car for them.  Then i'd file an official complain at their dept. and b&tch them out to their supervisor, run their name and badge # and photo all over facebook and twitter and reddit, upload the video to Youtube, and otherwise make their life a living hell.
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« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2021, 10:51:35 pm »
If a cop claimed to smell marijuana in my car and i wasn't smoking i'd request an MJ saliva test before they put one finger in my car.  I simply wouldn't open my car for them.  Then i'd file an official complain at their dept. and b&tch them out to their supervisor, run their name and badge # and photo all over facebook and twitter and reddit, upload the video to Youtube, and otherwise make their life a living hell.

Youíd be dragged out by your hair kicking and screaming. Once they have probable cause, youíre done.  Good luck.

Of course, youíll be fine....   they wonít smell anything coming from your momís car cuz youíre not a black or brown person.

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« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2021, 11:14:01 pm »
Youíd be dragged out by your hair kicking and screaming. Once they have probable cause, youíre done.  Good luck.

They can't.  Smelling pot isn't probable cause:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/police-can-t-search-based-on-pot-smell-alone-sask-court-rules-1.701628

But if you want to let the cops to search your vehicle go ahead.  They aren't touching my car.

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Of course, youíll be fine....   they wonít smell anything coming from your momís car cuz youíre not a black or brown person.

Wow right to the insults huh?  Thank you for ironically showing everyone on this forum how childish you are!  That was easy.  :D

You nor anyone else on here has any idea what my race is.  Assuming my race because of how I post makes you prejudice and racist.  Any other great arguments to share with us?
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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2021, 11:33:17 pm »
I think it's worth asking why this is such a polarizing slogan. I think the idea that we'd collapse into anarchy without the police is largely a byproduct of decades of nonstop copaganda with a big dash of racism ("if you get rid of the police *those people* will be able to do whatever they want!").

In my neighborhood, "those people" are mostly white meth-heads, and sharing European ancestry with them doesn't make me feel better about them doing whatever they want.

I agree with the premise that comprehensive mental health programs, drug rehabilitation, and anti-poverty programs could have a significant impact on the amount of crime that occurs. And I think that the majority of people are decent people who wouldn't commit serious crime even if there were not police around. However, I also believe that there are people who would commit violence and other kinds of lawlessness if there were no police around.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2021, 09:42:27 am »
Go **** yourself you ignorant git.

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« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2021, 09:58:35 am »
Defund these fuckers....

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Lawyers for a northern Ontario police force are trying to have video of an Indigenous man being dragged inside a police station excluded from an upcoming inquest.

The footage shows how Thunder Bay police officers treated Dino Kwandibens of Whitesand First Nation while in custody at the police station on Aug. 2, 2014, the same night Don Mamakwa, 44, of Kasabonika First Nation was arrested for public intoxication and later found dead in his cell.


Through their legal counsel, Thunder Bay's police chief and several officers filed a notice of motion to exclude the cellblock video, arguing the footage is irrelevant and outside the scope of the upcoming inquest into the deaths of Mamakwa and Roland McKay, 50, of Kitchenuhmaykoosib Inninuwug, who died in Thunder Bay Police Service (TBPS) custody on July 20, 2017.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/mamakwa-mckay-preinquest-video-motion-1.5871920

You canít show video of what actually happened at the inquest to look into what happened!  Thatís what the cops are arguing.  Dirtbags.


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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2021, 10:05:29 am »
In my neighborhood, "those people" are mostly white meth-heads, and sharing European ancestry with them doesn't make me feel better about them doing whatever they want.

I agree with the premise that comprehensive mental health programs, drug rehabilitation, and anti-poverty programs could have a significant impact on the amount of crime that occurs. And I think that the majority of people are decent people who wouldn't commit serious crime even if there were not police around. However, I also believe that there are people who would commit violence and other kinds of lawlessness if there were no police around.

 -k

Those are probably the people who would commit violence and other kinds of lawlessness if there are police around.

I'm not arguing there's no role for law enforcement in our society, quite the opposite. But I see no way of reforming the police when the police themselves are almost universally resistant to reform and accountability and the culture of modern policing is so thoroughly rotten. It's like trying to spruce up a house with a lick of paint and some new curtains when the foundation is crumbling.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2021, 06:26:30 pm »
Traffic enforcement without police

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Of all the functions that could be separated from the police department, one of the most significant would be the removal of traffic enforcement. Over 24 million people each year come into contact with police during a traffic stop, according to data from the Department of Justice. And traffic stops can be especially dangerous and discriminatory for people of color: Black drivers are 20 percent more likely to be stopped than white drivers, and as much as twice as likely to be searched, according to a study of 100 million traffic stops conducted by the Stanford Open Policing Project. And 11 percent of all fatal shootings by police in 2015 occurred during traffic stops, according to a Washington Post database of police killings.
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« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2021, 07:03:35 pm »
Those are probably the people who would commit violence and other kinds of lawlessness if there are police around.

I'm not arguing there's no role for law enforcement in our society, quite the opposite. But I see no way of reforming the police when the police themselves are almost universally resistant to reform and accountability and the culture of modern policing is so thoroughly rotten. It's like trying to spruce up a house with a lick of paint and some new curtains when the foundation is crumbling.

You tell them that anyone who doesn't reform and do and follow the new training and procedures and current laws etc. will be fired.  And if the unions don't like that then you say then we'll fire all of you, shut down the police, and create a brand new law enforcement force.

The problem is the police chiefs let their officers literally get away with murder.  The culture is to protect the brotherhood, but police don't take an oath to serve and protect the brotherhood (themselves) they take an oath to serve and protect the public.  The mayors and city councilors need to hold the police chiefs accountable and stand up to the unions and force everyone to honour their oath or fire them, and citizens need to hold mayors/councilors accountable so they do this.
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