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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #526 on: October 18, 2022, 09:59:46 am »
Where did you mention he was charged with two counts of aggravated assault?

When I posted the article which had that detail, I said he was arrested and fired. Sorry for not detailing his entire rap sheet.

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« Reply #527 on: October 18, 2022, 10:05:59 am »
Actually, I qualified the last 3 times.

You assume he didn't know a guy in a cop uniform was a cop?  The kid is dumb but probably not that dumb.  In your world everyone is apparently an innocent victim in a police encounter.

I dunno, I don't know what the lighting conditions were like, the kid's state of mind or anything like that. i do know that there's a reason police are supposed to announce that they are police before trying to detain someone.

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The kid was charged with evading detention and assault on an officer.  The plates on the car didn't belong to that car, but the car wasn't stolen.

And those charges were quickly dropped.

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I have no idea what the proper procedure is in this situation once he starts fleeing.  What do you think it is?  Options:

-Get back in his car and chase him?  Then you're also risking the lives of others in a vehicle chase, and the cop was on foot so the car likely would have got away.

-Make sure to get the plates on video before car is approached, then arrive at their house  (wouldn't work with a stolen vehicle).

-Shoot at the driver (danger to driver, passenger, and bystanders, plus cop could also get shot at if driver/passenger has a gun).

-Do nothing, let him get away, file a police report. This option means anyone (if they're in a stolen vehicle) can just drive away from any cop if approached.

I'm not sure what the ideal solution is, they all have negatives.

I'm not sure. IDK why he could n't have called for back up or use his vehicle to block the other car. I think what happened was, he thought the car was the one that got away from him before, his ego was bruised so he decided to be a tough guy instead of  being smart.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #528 on: October 18, 2022, 10:10:56 am »
Better late than never lol:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sick-of-break-ins-and-assaults-bcers-vote-for-tough-on-crime-mayors

VPD's budget increased from $317 million in 2019 to $367 million in 2022 and represents 21 percent of the overall city budget. Weird how with all of that money that they can't keep a lid on crime.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #529 on: October 18, 2022, 10:15:32 am »
When I posted the article which had that detail, I said he was arrested and fired. Sorry for not detailing his entire rap sheet.

He was charged six days ago.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #530 on: October 18, 2022, 10:21:24 am »
VPD's budget increased from $317 million in 2019 to $367 million in 2022 and represents 21 percent of the overall city budget. Weird how with all of that money that they can't keep a lid on crime.

How do they keep a lid on it when courts release violent offenders on the same day. When they breach conditions, courts just remove the conditions. Familiarize yourself with
Bill C-75.

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The Court emphasized a number of key principles and guidelines to apply in a contested bail hearing, including that releasing the accused without conditions should be the default position when granting release and that “release is favoured at the earliest reasonable opportunity on the least onerous grounds.”

The police are doing their job, it is the rest of the system that is failing the public.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #531 on: October 18, 2022, 10:41:18 am »
He was charged six days ago.

And I posted the article, which included that detail, five days ago. What are you trying to prove here?
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #532 on: October 18, 2022, 10:43:01 am »
How do they keep a lid on it when courts release violent offenders on the same day. When they breach conditions, courts just remove the conditions. Familiarize yourself with
Bill C-75.

The police are doing their job, it is the rest of the system that is failing the public.

So adding more cops and increasing police budgets won't do anything to fix the problem, thank you for agreeing with me.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #533 on: October 18, 2022, 11:08:09 am »
So adding more cops and increasing police budgets won't do anything to fix the problem, thank you for agreeing with me.

Well then, maybe you should reserve some of your anger for the parts of the system that are failing instead of blaming police for everything.
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« Reply #534 on: October 18, 2022, 12:20:07 pm »
Well then, maybe you should reserve some of your anger for the parts of the system that are failing instead of blaming police for everything.

I don't blame the police for everything I also blame the politicians who keep writing the cops blank cheques.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #535 on: October 18, 2022, 05:04:40 pm »
I don't blame the police for everything I also blame the politicians who keep writing the cops blank cheques.

How well funded are cops in Canada?  I don't think we have over- funding problems.  They can't even get rid of parked truckers apparently.  I wish there were more cops in my community because there's a lot of piece of crap people doing a lot of bad things in my neighborhood.  A lot of Canadian cities don't even have their cops wearing bodycams, which is a disgrace.

I think most policing abuse problems ultimately come from city council or the gov level in charge of the police, who fail to keep them accountable.  There will always be bad seeds but they need to discovered and punished/fired before they can do a lot of harm.  That's on the government, they hire the police chiefs and make the laws.  They just don't care enough I wager.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #536 on: October 18, 2022, 05:08:43 pm »
I don't blame the police for everything I also blame the politicians who keep writing the cops blank cheques.

Ya, you do. That's why 80% of the posts on this topic are yours.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9207826/repeat-vancouver-offender-mohammed-majidpour-arrested-again/

This is the norm these days.

Also

https://globalnews.ca/news/9207858/burnaby-rcmp-officer-killed-stabbing-homeless-camp/
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #537 on: October 18, 2022, 05:15:37 pm »
Ya, you do. That's why 80% of the posts on this topic are yours.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9207826/repeat-vancouver-offender-mohammed-majidpour-arrested-again/

This is the norm these days.

Also

https://globalnews.ca/news/9207858/burnaby-rcmp-officer-killed-stabbing-homeless-camp/

Again: how does giving police more money solve any of these issues?

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #538 on: October 18, 2022, 05:47:09 pm »
How well funded are cops in Canada? 
In Winnipeg, they are at nearly 27% of the total city budget and rising. And if you look at public accounts, even shmuck constables get six figures with a sweet pension, which in Winnipeg is still a lot of money.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #539 on: October 18, 2022, 07:28:29 pm »
Police unions have nothing to do with the labour movement.