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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #510 on: October 13, 2022, 03:31:29 pm »
There's just as many bad apples in the teacher's union.  But you don't care about them, because groomers tend to support that.

BUH WHatBoUtTism, f*ck off loser go ask some cop to bugger you with a nightstick.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #511 on: October 13, 2022, 03:32:49 pm »
I'm enjoying that you're getting so aggravated face f**k.

Me thinking you're a retard who should kill himself is my default mode.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #512 on: October 14, 2022, 11:05:29 am »
Some of those that work forces are the same. that burn crosses.

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A Massachusetts police officer attended the deadly “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, five years ago and acted in key security and planning roles, HuffPost has confirmed. He also used an alias to post racist and antisemitic comments online. The officer, John Donnelly, was still an active-duty member of the police force until Thursday, shortly after HuffPost inquired about his status with the department and role in the deadly white supremacist rally.

Donnelly, 33, was a patrolman for the Woburn Police Department near Boston, where he has been employed since 2015.
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Donnelly was among hundreds of white supremacists who invaded the university town. His fellow attendees violently attacked counterprotesters, with one neo-Nazi driving his car into a crowd of anti-fascists, killing a 32-year-old woman and injuring 19 others. That evening, Donnelly went to a party at a house near Charlottesville, where he joined in a celebration of the day’s events.

Donnelly then returned to Massachusetts and resumed his job as a cop.

His white supremacist activism and involvement in the Charlottesville rally has gone unknown for five years, during which time Donnelly — while still working as a police officer — became the president of a “back the blue” nonprofit raising money for law enforcement, as well as an award-winning real estate agent whose face is featured on a massive billboard in Woburn, a Boston suburb.

He Marched At The Nazi Rally In Charlottesville. Then He Went Back To Being A Cop.


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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #513 on: October 14, 2022, 01:07:52 pm »
wild that there's just so many bad apples

Former San Antonio officer who shot teen in McDonald's parking lot arrested


I'd bet the only reason this guy got fired was because he hadn't finished his probation.

They try to frame it as "innocent person just eating hamburger gets shot by cops".  They conveniently ignore that he ran from the cop on 2 occasions including right before the shooting, which is why the cop shot at him.

I don't know what the procedure was, I assume not shooting the guy, maybe get their plates and then show up at their house and arrest them....unless the car is stolen. But if I ran from the cops I wouldn't be surprised if they started shooting at me.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #514 on: October 14, 2022, 01:22:25 pm »
They try to frame it as "innocent person just eating hamburger gets shot by cops".  They conveniently ignore that he ran from the cop on 2 occasions including right before the shooting, which is why the cop shot at him.

Except he didn't.

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I don't know what the procedure was, I assume not shooting the guy, maybe get their plates and then show up at their house and arrest them....unless the car is stolen. But if I ran from the cops I wouldn't be surprised if they started shooting at me.

If someone opened my car door and stuck a gun in my face without announcing they're police, I'd probably try to GTFO too.

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« Reply #515 on: October 14, 2022, 02:48:20 pm »
Except he didn't.

He fled the cops, twice apparently.

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If someone opened my car door and stuck a gun in my face without announcing they're police, I'd probably try to GTFO too.

You think this is what happened?  I assume he was wearing a uniform. When a cop sticks a gun in your face

The cop didn't stick a gun in his face, that's a lie.  The cop opened the door, told him to get out of the car (there's no way he couldn't see his uniform with the car door fully open) then the guy started to change gears into reverse, so then the cop tried to grab the guy out of the car with 2 free hands (no gun) before he was able to escape.  When the guy was free and driving away the cop then shot at the car.

It was reckless to shoot in a parking lot with a passenger in the car.  But the driver is also a piece of crap and an idiot.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #516 on: October 14, 2022, 03:04:37 pm »
He fled the cops twice apparently

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You think this is what happened?

I rewatched the footage and yeah you're right. He just yanked open the door and demanded the kid get out without identifying himself as police or anything like that.

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The cop opened the door, told him to get out of the car (there's no way he couldn't see his uniform with the car door fully open) then the guy started to change gears into reverse, so then the cop tried to grab the guy out of the car with 2 free hands (no gun) before he was able to escape.  When the guy was free and driving away the cop then shot at the car.

It was reckless to shoot in a parking lot with a passenger in the car.  But the driver is also a piece of crap and an idiot.

That's not really what happened either.

Anyway you consistently treat cops like wild animals who are only capable of reacting to stimulus, which is actually a good argument for giving them less money and power.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #517 on: October 14, 2022, 10:30:43 pm »
Anyway you consistently treat cops like wild animals who are only capable of reacting to stimulus, which is actually a good argument for giving them less money and power.

Well no, cops should follow procedure, and when they don't they should be help accountable.  Just like citizens should follow the law and when they don't be held accountable.

If this cop didn't, as the chief claims, then yeah punish him.  But my point is the narrative that "omg innocent kid eating burger shot by cop" is not the whole story.  What kind of idiot runs from a cop....twice? (according to the cop as he claims in the video).

Still applies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #518 on: October 17, 2022, 04:57:01 pm »
Well no, cops should follow procedure, and when they don't they should be help accountable.  Just like citizens should follow the law and when they don't be held accountable.

If this cop didn't, as the chief claims, then yeah punish him. But my point is the narrative that "omg innocent kid eating burger shot by cop" is not the whole story.  What kind of idiot runs from a cop....twice? (according to the cop as he claims in the video).

That's the third or fourth time you've said this kid ran from the cop before without any evidence. The cop claimed the car was stolen. It wasn't.

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #519 on: October 17, 2022, 06:21:04 pm »
That's the third or fourth time you've said this kid ran from the cop before without any evidence. The cop claimed the car was stolen. It wasn't.

Cop sees same or similar car that he says ran from him before.  Then goes up to him and he immediately runs.  Sounds like pretty good odds it was the same guy lol.  I also never said this was a fact, i said "according to the cop's claims".

I also never said the car was stolen, the cop said he suspected the car might be stolen.

I can admit this cop acted rashly, apparently outside policy and the law.  Can you admit this kid is a dumbass?  If the cop wasn't so rash OR the kid wasn't so dumb the kid wouldn't have been shot.

I invite you to drive away from a cop when he's ordering you to get out of your car and see what happens.  I mean WTF did this kid think was going to happen?  If a cop is trying to detain you, whether lawful or unlawful, and you run it's probably going to end in some kind of violence.  Best way to fight a cop is with your mouth or in court.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #520 on: October 17, 2022, 07:16:16 pm »
Cop sees same or similar car that he says ran from him before.  Then goes up to him and he immediately runs.  Sounds like pretty good odds it was the same guy lol.  I also never said this was a fact, i said "according to the cop's claims".

They try to frame it as "innocent person just eating hamburger gets shot by cops".  They conveniently ignore that he ran from the cop on 2 occasions including right before the shooting, which is why the cop shot at him.

He fled the cops, twice apparently.

But my point is the narrative that "omg innocent kid eating burger shot by cop" is not the whole story.  What kind of idiot runs from a cop....twice? (according to the cop as he claims in the video).

Took you three times to qualify it and anyway, why would you believe the idiot cop in this instance?

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I can admit this cop acted rashly, apparently outside policy and the law.  Can you admit this kid is a dumbass?  If the cop wasn't so rash OR the kid wasn't so dumb the kid wouldn't have been shot.

I invite you to drive away from a cop when he's ordering you to get out of your car and see what happens.  I mean WTF did this kid think was going to happen?  If a cop is trying to detain you, whether lawful or unlawful, and you run it's probably going to end in some kind of violence.  Best way to fight a cop is with your mouth or in court.

You assume the kid knew the guy was a cop when he didn't identify himself, it was nighttime, whatever.

And regardless, I don't think the punishment for trying to get away from a cop should be summary execution. Also, why are you holding agents of the state with a monopoly on violence to the same standard as a dumbass 17 year old?

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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #521 on: October 17, 2022, 08:54:02 pm »
The officer was immediately fired and has been charged.

Funny no one has mentioned that.
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« Reply #522 on: October 17, 2022, 09:46:39 pm »
Took you three times to qualify it and anyway, why would you believe the idiot cop in this instance?

Actually, I qualified the last 3 times.

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You assume the kid knew the guy was a cop when he didn't identify himself, it was nighttime, whatever.

You assume he didn't know a guy in a cop uniform was a cop?  The kid is dumb but probably not that dumb.  In your world everyone is apparently an innocent victim in a police encounter.

The kid was charged with evading detention and assault on an officer.  The plates on the car didn't belong to that car, but the car wasn't stolen.

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And regardless, I don't think the punishment for trying to get away from a cop should be summary execution. Also, why are you holding agents of the state with a monopoly on violence to the same standard as a dumbass 17 year old?

I have no idea what the proper procedure is in this situation once he starts fleeing.  What do you think it is?  Options:

-Get back in his car and chase him?  Then you're also risking the lives of others in a vehicle chase, and the cop was on foot so the car likely would have got away.

-Make sure to get the plates on video before car is approached, then arrive at their house  (wouldn't work with a stolen vehicle).

-Shoot at the driver (danger to driver, passenger, and bystanders, plus cop could also get shot at if driver/passenger has a gun).

-Do nothing, let him get away, file a police report. This option means anyone (if they're in a stolen vehicle) can just drive away from any cop if approached.

I'm not sure what the ideal solution is, they all have negatives.
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Re: Defund the Police
« Reply #523 on: October 17, 2022, 10:51:14 pm »
The officer was immediately fired and has been charged.

Funny no one has mentioned that.

Except me in the post introducing this story to the thread.

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« Reply #524 on: October 17, 2022, 11:03:45 pm »
Except me in the post introducing this story to the thread.

Where did you mention he was charged with two counts of aggravated assault?
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