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I see you're trying to worm your way out of your previous comments but it ain't working. As the old adage goes "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"

I'm not worming anything. Women who get knocked up outside a committed life-long relationship are stupid.  I've given evidence why.

That's not an opinion, it's a fact.  Give them IQ tests and compare results to women who only have babies in wedlock.

Thread drift...

I already spent 15 minutes digging out a snow drift today so I ain't cleanin' this up 

I'm not worming anything. Women who get knocked up outside a committed life-long relationship are stupid.  I've given evidence why.

That's not an opinion, it's a fact.  Give them IQ tests and compare results to women who only have babies in wedlock.

No you didn't.  You provided a few links about single parents and debt, now you're trying to say 'as a fact' that single parents are stupid.  Fiscal responsibility doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence.

FYI, I am a single parent because my *ex* is terrible with money (very high IQ though) and I couldn't stand his debt-ridden life.

I don't even make a lot of money since I work part-time but my kids have all the newest gadgets, vacations twice a year, and my single-mother life puts aside over $1500/month into various savings/educations funds. 

Debt is not a single-mother issue, it affects both genders and of all walks of life.  I've seen people making 300K/year living paycheque to paycheque and I've seen people who save money making 50k/year.

Stigmatizing single mothers as being stupid.... is very f-ing stupid.

No you didn't.  You provided a few links about single parents and debt, now you're trying to say 'as a fact' that single parents are stupid.  Fiscal responsibility doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence.

FYI, I am a single parent because my *ex* is terrible with money (very high IQ though) and I couldn't stand his debt-ridden life.

I don't even make a lot of money since I work part-time but my kids have all the newest gadgets, vacations twice a year, and my single-mother life puts aside over $1500/month into various savings/educations funds. 

Debt is not a single-mother issue, it affects both genders and of all walks of life.  I've seen people making 300K/year living paycheque to paycheque and I've seen people who save money making 50k/year.

Stigmatizing single mothers as being stupid.... is very f-ing stupid.

Never, ever did I criticize all single mothers as being stupid, in fact I was specifically careful not to. Here's what I said:

"There's no reason for any other debt besides emergencies or if you're a single parent because your spouse died or something.  If you're a single parent because you got knocked up out of wedlock i have no sympathy."

I also said:  "Women who get knocked up outside a committed life-long relationship are stupid" and "My main point is, if you're in debt because of your own bad decisions there should be no sympathy for you."

If they have money and have a baby on purpose aka not getting "knocked-up" then they aren't stupid.  If they have a baby while married but their husband is a jerk and cheats on them or whatnot, that isn't the moms fault, therefore they aren't stupid...unless they were clearly exhibiting this behaviour before marriage/baby.

What I'm saying is that people who make dumb decisions are stupid.  I shouldn't have to say that a man who "accidentally" knocks up a woman outside a long-term committed relationship and has to pay child support for the rest of his life is also a dumba$$.  I have a male engineer friend with what I imagine is a high IQ who knocked up his gf, what an idiot.  And yes I still strongly believe that there's a correlation between IQ and getting knocked up (or knocking someone up), even if there are exceptions well above the average just like in most statistical correlations.  I'd love to see a study on that.  Go into the poorest areas in any city and you will find a much higher % of single moms/parents with low education and incomes.  Go into any rich area and you will find a much higher % of 2-parent families who had kids after marriage.  That doesn't mean all single moms/dads are stupid nor does it mean all married couples are smart.

I can't help people being offended by reality, I'm just reporting the news.  I can't help the biological fact that women bear a far larger cost, including education/career/finances, of unintended pregnancy out of wedlock, just reporting the news.  Sometimes facts have gender discrepancies, pretending they don't exist makes things worse.  My point is that the explosion in the # of people getting knocked up outside wedlock over the last several decades has been a contributor to the debt problem.  Don't blame the messenger.

Never, ever did I criticize all single mothers as being stupid, in fact I was specifically careful not to. Here's what I said:

"There's no reason for any other debt besides emergencies or if you're a single parent because your spouse died or something.  If you're a single parent because you got knocked up out of wedlock i have no sympathy."

I also said:  "Women who get knocked up outside a committed life-long relationship are stupid" and "My main point is, if you're in debt because of your own bad decisions there should be no sympathy for you."

If they have money and have a baby on purpose aka not getting "knocked-up" then they aren't stupid.  If they have a baby while married but their husband is a jerk and cheats on them or whatnot, that isn't the moms fault, therefore they aren't stupid...unless they were clearly exhibiting this behaviour before marriage/baby.

What I'm saying is that people who make dumb decisions are stupid.  I shouldn't have to say that a man who "accidentally" knocks up a woman outside a long-term committed relationship and has to pay child support for the rest of his life is also a dumba$$.  I have a male engineer friend with what I imagine is a high IQ who knocked up his gf, what an idiot.  And yes I still strongly believe that there's a correlation between IQ and getting knocked up (or knocking someone up), even if there are exceptions well above the average just like in most statistical correlations.  I'd love to see a study on that.  Go into the poorest areas in any city and you will find a much higher % of single moms/parents with low education and incomes.  Go into any rich area and you will find a much higher % of 2-parent families who had kids after marriage.  That doesn't mean all single moms/dads are stupid nor does it mean all married couples are smart.

I can't help people being offended by reality, I'm just reporting the news.  I can't help the biological fact that women bear a far larger cost, including education/career/finances, of unintended pregnancy out of wedlock, just reporting the news.  Sometimes facts have gender discrepancies, pretending they don't exist makes things worse.  My point is that the explosion in the # of people getting knocked up outside wedlock over the last several decades has been a contributor to the debt problem.  Don't blame the messenger.

Oh well we see you have moved to blaming "people" instead of singling out just the females. Good move.

I, drunk from power, removed a post from a user I like because it was an insult and nothing more.

I confess.

I, drunk from power, removed a post from a user I like because it was an insult and nothing more.

I confess.

I won't complain, wise move.

You're masquerading your judgment of people who have kids outside of a nuclear relationship (planned or not) by pretending you're concerned about their debt.

Not people, just women...   he has no sympathy for stupid women who get knocked up.    Note, there's nothing said about men.   I stand by what I said....   idiotic sexist sentiment.