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Offline The Cynic

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Re: Culture Culture
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2021, 06:40:44 pm »
1. Centuries ?  Well, ok, but the GDP growth in the middle ages was about zero.

Okay. Has our GDP growth been outpacing Europe in the last twenty years of high immigration?
Because it looks like our GDP growth rate has been trending steadily down even as immigration has steadily risen. I do not see the EU with such a steady downward trend despite issues with some of its southern member states.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/EUU/european-union/gdp-growth-rate
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/EUU/european-union/gdp-growth-rate


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Canada can't have a long storied history like France anymore but... neither does France anymore.  If you want to get really meta about it - countries are dissolving away.

That will happen only so far before there is a vicious backlash. We saw the start of one in Europe after just a few million migrants. We saw the start of that in the US with Trump. The only reason Canada hasn't seen any is the remarkable unanimity among the political/media elites on the subject. But a wide variety of polls taken of Canadians shows their views on immigration are anything but unanimous, and hostility is rising despite efforts to suppress all talk opposed to immigration.


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If you don't think fewer immigration problem is an economic advantage, I would have to ask why not ?

Because there's no evidence it is.

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2. I think we are teaching it.

We're teaching very little history, and what we are teaching seems to emphasize and concentrate on every dark moment in our history which can be found.

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3. Me.  I personally know lots of immigrants and their kids.  The kids are Canadian, period.  If you can find an academic study or some objective examination of such things, I would honestly be MORE inclined to believe it than my anecdotal experience but that is all I have.

Even your anecdote would give me some confidence were it not for the fact you don't seem to consider that Canada has any culture or values beyond being somewhat nice and welcoming to strangers. By that standards there are hundreds of millions of Canadians around the world who have never been here.

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4. See #3 - also every party has immigrants running and/or elected as MPs.  How exactly this works out for Canadians born in India vs. South America is not clear to me.  I would imagine it's like Florida Cubans influencing elections but

The political influence Florida Cubans have exercised on elections has not been good for the United States. What makes you think the much greater influence of immigrants in Canada will be good for us?

 
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Did we have a sense of our history and was it accurate ?  I would say we have a way of life and values that are shared, more than 'history'.

The good thing about shared narratives is it doesn't matter if they're true as long as most people believe in them and it gives them a sense of pride and possession in their homeland and nation. Of course, we're not supposed to feel any possession since we're all 'settlers' and are expected to apologize for it during every public meeting