Canadian Politics Today

This survey supports my contention that Christians from the area are more similar in outlook and practice to Muslims than they are to Western Christians.  It also supports the belief of some others that Islam is more extreme, though these extreme views are less pervasive than generally claimed.

Islam and Christianity should be cast aside as ideologies.  The flaws in both are so vast as shown a million times by a million people.  Not to say there aren't some good aspects to take from them, but the ideologies force you to take the good with the bad.

I had a professor once, he said a good ideology is one where the philosopher has taken great care to ensure that it can't be corrupted.  You think of the worst case scenarios of what could be done with a given philosophy and then you change or even abandon the philosophy so they can't happen. The ancient Greek philosophers did this.  German philosophers in 18th century didn't do this, and Marx didn't, so horrors resulted.  Nietzsche didn't, and horrors resulted.  Certain English enlightenment philosophers like John Locke and the US founding fathers took great pains to make sure their ideology, liberal democracy, would be extremely difficult to corrupt.  They built in ideas like separation of powers, checks and balances, term limits etc. to avoid abuse.  They built in an amendment procedure in case changes needed to be made, but made that process difficult enough so it too couldn't be abused.

Christianity and Islam are easily corruptible.  They rely on a lot of interpretation, which is subjective.  It also says this is the final word and can't be changed and if you don't believe this you're going to hell.  Very dangerous stuff.  Islam is so flawed that war broke out the moment Mohammad died because followers couldn't agree on who should lead the movement after his death.

Religion is garbage because it's incompatible with reason or logic and that makes it dangerous.

It seems to me that power leads to corruption and to horrors.  Hardly matters the ideilology. Religious or political, or even just guards overseeing prisoners in a brief experiment.

Yes power leads to corruption.  But then what about ie: al-Qaeda?  They weren't that powerful, but they have a very dangerous ideology.  What I mean by corruption is that it can be easily twisted to reach horrible results.  I think Marx and Nietzsche would have been horrified by the USSR and Nazi Germany, respectively.

Gotta agree.  But it is also true, about both religions, that it is ultimately those in power and those on the fringes that practice and support the worst interpretations.  Most people simply want to live in peace and as much prosperity as they can muster.

I agree, most people seem pretty moderate luckily.

Whether Mohammed or Jesus, the effect one person has had on billions of people for millenia is astounding.

Ya it's pretty amazing.