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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #165 on: March 04, 2021, 02:28:52 pm »
There is no "correct" number of gays, women, or minorities on TV.  That's the whole point.  You can include people if you like, or not, who gives a crap.  E

You evidently there is a correct number and now there are too many. Again:

"There's still room for pushing modest numbers of diversity hires to give historically oppressed groups more chances to succeed in positions you historically haven't seen them in often.  I think hiring some female directors is cool.  It's about how far we should take it."

The only way to interpret this is you think there's a threshold for where "giving minorities opportunity" ends and "filling quotas" begins which exists in your own mind and now we've passed it.

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Everyone is trying to determine the exact correct number of every division of identity on every TV show and organization.

Who is doing that? I want examples.

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I don't mind throwing a bone to people once in a while and giving people opportunities, because why not, it's good to give people chances who might not ordinarily have them.  But I'm not going to look at every single hiring decision and break it down like the census in order to make sure the proportion of people from group X or Y in the general population is proportionately represented in the staff of every organization in the country because people falsely assume that to not do so is somehow an indication of racism and sexism and then scream about it on twitter and run hashtags.

This is tokenism.

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Why not?  Because it's absolutely insane, it's tokenism, it's condescending, it's racist, it's sexist, it's divisive, it's bad social science based on logical fallacies, it's a road to nowhere with no end because it has no conceptual underpinning that makes logical sense, and it's annoying.

These are words, that's for sure, but it sure looks like your inventing people and scenarios and then getting mad at them.

Tokenism is what you're talking about: having a few different colour faces to gesture towards diversity to pretend you're addressing inequality. Whereas the real goal should be not just minority representation but actual power and influence.

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People think Batwoman is cool.  People even think having more female superheroes is a good thing, and if it's a good show they watch it.  People don't want Batwoman hitting them over the head with wokeness every 3 minutes, they want Batwoman in cool stories.  Again, it's about how far people take their "progress".

Again, you're saying "people" when you clearly mean "me". Not sure why you can't own your opinions without projecting them onto some nebulous entity called "people."