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Offline kimmy

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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2018, 09:05:50 pm »
Yes... it's giving people access to all kinds of information, but sadly dumb-people and gullible people are being drawn to false and misleading ideas.

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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2018, 09:29:31 am »
Yes... it's giving people access to all kinds of information, but sadly dumb-people and gullible people are being drawn to false and misleading ideas.

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You tell people something which is at least arguably true, and then you lead from that to something which is bullshit, and you never mention all the things which flat out contradict both of those, and bingo, you have a new indignant, outraged follower. Of course, that only works if they ignore other sources of information which contradict you. So, yes, dumb people.

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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2018, 08:12:10 pm »


While it would be tempting to take this as a sign that these media outlets are taking a stance against fake news and conspiritard bullshit, I think the more likely explanation is that Youtube and Spotify and Facebook are just doing some ass-covering so that they don't get named as co-defendants next time Alex Jones gets sued. 

Yes, but that also works.  Why it took this long for libel to apply to new media and that a-hole in particular is a mystery to me.

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2018, 08:23:03 pm »
Yes... it's giving people access to all kinds of information, but sadly dumb-people and gullible people are being drawn to false and misleading ideas.
This has always been true. The difference is people are ignorant by choice rather than simply believing the only sources of information they had access to.

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2018, 09:52:00 pm »
Books have been available for a long time though.  And, similarly, the snooty classes were worried about giving access to books to the lower classes from what I have read.

We have ignored the masses for too long, and now they are part of 'the' public.  The Democrats always had a great way to exploit them by making demons out of the capitalist classes.  That seems to be where we are going again for better or worse...

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2018, 09:19:15 am »
Books have been available for a long time though.  And, similarly, the snooty classes were worried about giving access to books to the lower classes from what I have read.

Until recently, the ability to publish wasn't very widespread.  Newspapers and book publishers acted as gatekeepers.  A flat earth conspiritard couldn't just take his thesis down to Random House or Simon & Schuster and reach a wide audience. These types were pretty much restricted to putting photocopied notes on car windshields.

Now anybody can put information on the internet and if they're clever enough at promoting themselves they can reach a wide audience.

We have ignored the masses for too long, and now they are part of 'the' public.  The Democrats always had a great way to exploit them by making demons out of the capitalist classes.  That seems to be where we are going again for better or worse...

Not sure what you're trying to say here... 

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2018, 09:56:39 am »
This has always been true. The difference is people are ignorant by choice rather than simply believing the only sources of information they had access to.

Climate change deniers are in this same camp....   Conspiratards.
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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2018, 06:12:38 pm »
1.  A flat earth conspiritard couldn't just take his thesis down to Random House or Simon & Schuster and reach a wide audience. These types were pretty much restricted to putting photocopied notes on car windshields.

2. Now anybody can put information on the internet 

3. Not sure what you're trying to say here... 


1. Yes, and now...

2. This.

3. I am trying to say #2, and that the Dems used to feed the "f*** the man" that the populists feed on.

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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2018, 12:18:29 am »
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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2018, 09:13:31 am »
I watched the video.  What is the connection to the topic though?

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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2018, 10:06:25 am »
Well, the guy's social media includes anti-vax stuff and he talks about doctors as "the priests of the medical cult".  I think people who refuse to get their children vaccinated because they think modern medicine is a big conspiracy of doctors and pharma companies are conspiritards just as surely as Alex Jones and people who think kids are being abducted and sent to a sex slave colony on Mars.

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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2018, 10:08:23 am »
btw, here's Alex Jones and Robert David Steele talking about the secret sex slave colony on Mars.
https://www.space.com/37366-mars-slave-colony-alex-jones.html

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Re: Conspiracy Culture
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2018, 12:20:42 am »
Alex Jones compares being booted from Youtube etc to Jim Crow segregation:

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“They don’t have a right to do this. This is discriminatory, like not letting black people eat at the lunch counters or ride on this bus. This is evil. This is wrong. Patriots and conservatives and nationalists are being persecuted while the left tries to use internet giant systems to bully us,” Jones said.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/alex-jones-infowars-de-platforming-like-racial-segregation/

Holy fuck these people are stupid.


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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2018, 06:06:01 am »

Holy fuck these people are stupid.


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This was bound to happen... public fora got dumber, government got more complicated, lying got worse...

How to fix ?

Needs something quick, alongside something substantial...

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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2018, 12:47:19 am »
How to fix ?

Needs something quick, alongside something substantial...

Quickest way to get rid of Alex Jones: catch him watching transvestite porn.

Apparently the SUPER MALE VITALITY supplements have failed.



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