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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2022, 02:58:23 pm »
If you and Paris Marx (the most crazy-person name of all-time) don't like cars don't drive cars. They'll also be self-driving soon too so most car accidents will be eliminated. Elon Musk is helping spearhead all this tech that will save a gazillion lives and dollars but he tweets like an ass and has an ego & a temper so f*** him.

ICE vehicles will be the dominant mode of transportation for many decades to come. And the idea that self driving vehicles will eliminate accidents is a joke when you see how far removed we are from that being a viable technology.

EVs also don't address the high cost of owning a personal vehicle, they don't solve the fact that car-dependent infrastructure is wasteful and socially damaging.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2022, 04:32:50 pm »
ICE vehicles will be the dominant mode of transportation for many decades to come. And the idea that self driving vehicles will eliminate accidents is a joke when you see how far removed we are from that being a viable technology.

EVs also don't address the high cost of owning a personal vehicle, they don't solve the fact that car-dependent infrastructure is wasteful and socially damaging.

Self- driving cars aren't that far off.  I think they can drive across America now.   The more that will get on the road the safer it will be, if most cars are totally predictable running similar programs, or on the same network.  I assume reducing the cost of insurance.

In the future you'll probably not even have to own a car, you could call up a self- driving Uber whenever you need a lift.  This will reduce or eliminate parking lots and spaces & reduce the # of total cars needed.

But again if you don't want a car you don't have to buy one.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2022, 04:41:17 pm »
Self- driving cars aren't that far off.  I think they can drive across America now.   The more that will get on the road the safer it will be, if most cars are totally predictable running similar programs, or on the same network.  I assume reducing the cost of insurance.

In the future you'll probably not even have to own a car, you could call up a self- driving Uber whenever you need a lift.  This will reduce or eliminate parking lots and spaces & reduce the # of total cars needed.

Self-driving cars are never gonna happen.

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But again if you don't want a car you don't have to buy one.

Again, I was able to get by without one for. along time when I lived in big cities with access to good public transportation, but the reality for many people is not owning a car is not an option and it's stupid to pretend otherwise.

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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2022, 05:43:25 pm »
Self-driving cars are never gonna happen.

Automation is coming.

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Again, I was able to get by without one for. along time when I lived in big cities with access to good public transportation, but the reality for many people is not owning a car is not an option and it's stupid to pretend otherwise.

Nothing is stopping you or anyone from living in a good sized city with public transit.  Owning a car is an option for 100% of people because nobody forces any adult to live anywhere or take any job.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2022, 09:13:31 pm »
Automation is coming.

Nothing is stopping you or anyone from living in a good sized city with public transit.  Owning a car is an option for 100% of people because nobody forces any adult to live anywhere or take any job.

We see more automation every year but the challenges of making it work in the dark on snow covered roads where it is difficult to see the shoulders and centre line are imposing. I don't see them being resolved in a hurry.

I guess everyone could live in cities with nothing in between. I wonder what they would do for food and all the other resources they need to survive.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2022, 09:51:22 pm »
We see more automation every year but the challenges of making it work in the dark on snow covered roads where it is difficult to see the shoulders and centre line are imposing. I don't see them being resolved in a hurry.

I guess everyone could live in cities with nothing in between. I wonder what they would do for food and all the other resources they need to survive.

True, farmers have to drive cars/ trucks, but I assume they choose to be farmers.  They aren't victims of car culture, shipping food by truck makes them good money.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2022, 11:07:17 pm »
True, farmers have to drive cars/ trucks, but I assume they choose to be farmers.  They aren't victims of car culture, shipping food by truck makes them good money.

Sure they choose to be farmers and it's a good thing they do because eating isn't a choice for the rest of us.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2022, 12:32:21 am »
Automation is coming.

Lol no

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Nothing is stopping you or anyone from living in a good sized city with public transit. 

Nothing except a complete lack of affordable housing in those places.

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Owning a car is an option for 100% of people because nobody forces any adult to live anywhere or take any job.

People need to live and work, dude.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2022, 02:12:08 am »
ICE vehicles will be the dominant mode of transportation for many decades to come. And the idea that self driving vehicles will eliminate accidents is a joke when you see how far removed we are from that being a viable technology.
To be honest, I think there is a kind of double standard going on here.

Self-driving vehicles will get into accidents. The question becomes whether they will get into more or less accidents, when compared to human-driven vehicles (when driven the same distance, under the same driving conditions). And this is where the issue of the double standard comes in.

If you get 1 accident with a self-driving car in 1 bazzillion miles driven, some people will take that to be evidence that self-driving cars are a failure, even if you would have gotten 100s of accidents from human-driven vehicles over the same distance.


EVs also don't address the high cost of owning a personal vehicle, they don't solve the fact that car-dependent infrastructure is wasteful and socially damaging.
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2022, 11:59:44 am »
This is great:

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Unfortunately traffic engineers and city planners are some of the weakest and most spineless civil servants in city government ó the former especially. If youíve ever talked to a traffic engineer, youíll realize quickly that these people are not interested in reducing the tens of thousands of Americans who die annually from traffic-related crashes. Rather, on behalf of city electeds and local businesses, they are first and foremost interested in how quickly they can get employees to work and how quickly their local businesses can fill up their parking.

They have little to no regard for the safety of anyone who doesnít drive. To traffic engineers, a city is for cars and the people in it are merely in the way.
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Itís time for people to start forming organizations to protect cyclists, transit riders, pedestrians, and yes ó drivers ó from car-centrism. Iím not going to spend years writing to city council that I need a crosswalk where I live ó Iím just going to paint it now. Iím not going to wait years on hundreds of thousands of dollars for impact studies blocking traffic out of neighborhood streets. We need to just erect the barriers and bike lanes ourselves. Erect the bus benches ourselves. Shrink the streets ourselves. Thereís a long history of neighbors taking matters into their own hands. We need to bring tactical urbanism back.

At the start of the school year, someone near my kid's daycare put up a temporary speed bump in front of their house, which is in a playground zone and adjacent to a schoolzone. Pretty sure the city made them take it down, but it was a great idea.

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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2022, 02:33:17 pm »
Good lord:

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A 55-year-old Lethbridge man drove over and killed a 10-year-old boy with his SUV more than two years ago because of a momentary lapse of attention, a judge has ruled.

Judge Timothy Hironaka found Neil Martin Skjodt guilty Wednesday in Lethbridge provincial court of one count of careless driving under the Traffic Safety Act, an offence liable to a maximum of six months in jail.

It's cool that as a society we've made it basically legal to kill someone as long as you're driving a car and say you weren't really paying attention..

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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2022, 02:57:33 pm »
That's defund the police, and criminal justice/bail reform in a nutshell.  I'm glad the chickens finally came home to roost.  Maybe you'll start to understand soon, eh face f**k?

It's not, but your glee over a guy getting off with a wrist slap for killing a child is noted, you fetid used condom of a person.

Shiddy when a 10-year-old learns gender is a social construct: "oh my god leave the children alone groomers!!!!"
Shiddy when a guy playing candy crush while driving a four ton SUV crushes a 10-year-old: "lol good!"
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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2022, 12:28:33 pm »
Lol no

Nothing except a complete lack of affordable housing in those places.

People need to live and work, dude.

Most of the jobs are in the largest cities, but people can't afford to live close to work in those places, so they wind up living far from work and spending long hours on the bus or in a car to get to work. So... what situation do you or Mx Marx see to this dilemma?   Reducing or eliminating "automobility" doesn't help anybody live closer to work.   It doesn't make housing more affordable. Just the opposite... it would reduce the range from which access to work is viable, which would increase demand for housing in areas that are near places where people work.

The increasing use of working from home gives people more flexibility in where to live. For many jobs all you need is a power outlet and an internet connection.  During the pandemic, Lindsey's brother and his family moved from Calgary to Kim Country because his wife was allowed to work from home and no longer required to be physically in the office.  Those Starlink satellites that Mx Marx hates so much open up even wider possibilities for where you could work, depending on what kind of work you do.


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Re: Car Culture Culture
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2022, 12:30:13 pm »
Back to cars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brubaker_Box



Itís neat, but historically insignificant in its impact on the car industry.  3 were built. 

The Schnellaster was produced for several years.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKW_Schnellaster

The true Grandfather of the minivan, which, to be honest, is a backhanded compliment at bestÖ
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