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« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2021, 02:58:57 pm »
I'm not so sure:  https://globalnews.ca/news/7816226/facebook-instagram-youtube-canada-crtc-canadian-content/
 

I am.

You have professional organizations spreading vax disinfo in the US.   Hooray for freedom.

I'm also ok with the government tracking purchases of organized criminals and tax cheats... No problem here.

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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2021, 03:49:38 pm »
I am.

You have professional organizations spreading vax disinfo in the US.   Hooray for freedom.

I agree that's a problem, but What does that have to do with Idaho banning CRT in schools?  I'm not saying there should never be limits on free speech.

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I'm also ok with the government tracking purchases of organized criminals and tax cheats... No problem here.

Criminals sure that's fine.  You seem to be changing goal posts here and creating strawmen. 

What about the purchases of ordinary Canadians that have done no wrong?  Canadians are protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms Section 8, which exists to prevent EXACTLY these kinds of government oversteps: "Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure."
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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2021, 04:05:38 pm »
1. I agree that's a problem, but What does that have to do with Idaho banning CRT in schools?  I'm not saying there should never be limits on free speech.

2. Criminals sure that's fine.  You seem to be changing goal posts here and creating strawmen. 

3. What about the purchases of ordinary Canadians that have done no wrong?  Canadians are protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms Section 8, which exists to prevent EXACTLY these kinds of government oversteps: "Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure."
1. Augh, sorry I forgot the context over days.  It's worse because the government is directly banning the teaching of an idea that, in itself, doesn't do what they say it does.  It would be like a government banning the teaching of 'false science' and then banning evolution to be taught.  Come to thinnk of it, that could be next.
2. Separate topic but if they can track us easily then they can find criminals.  I'm really more and more ok with a common openness as a solution to social problems.  So I'm a pariah, I don't care.
3. A faceless bureaucrat can look at your VISA charges if they think you may have bought child ****.  I don't care if it help them clean up the garbage quickly.  Kind of like 'free speech' changes with the internet so does 'search and seizure'...

They have an 'eye in the sky' that can hover over a city and provide 100% digital camera coverage.  For sure a cop would use it to track his cheating girlfriend.  Terrible affront to her privacy.  Meanwhile, the city can also track every single crime.  Tradeoff ?


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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2021, 07:56:46 pm »
You can't say Namaste in Alabama schools.  You can do Yoga but you have to use the English words for the poses.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999020140/its-now-legal-to-practice-yoga-in-alabamas-public-schools

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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2021, 08:07:26 pm »
You can't say Namaste in Alabama schools.  You can do Yoga but you have to use the English words for the poses.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999020140/its-now-legal-to-practice-yoga-in-alabamas-public-schools

I remember the thing in Ottawa (was it at Ottawa U, or Carleton?) where the student yoga class was "cancelled" because someone decided it was cultural appropriation for the white instructor to be leading a "yoga" class. She offered to stop referring to it as "yoga" and rebrand the class as "stretching and relaxation" or something that didn't leverage Indian culture. They declined.

Later the class resumed with an instructor of Indian background.  Asked about the prior controversy, she thought it was a joke. She was born and raised in Calgary; the only thing Indian about her was her last name and her skin-tone.

Anyway, all I'm saying that Alabama is on the side of justice here! Good for them to putting an end to this shameless cultural appropriation!

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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2021, 02:10:32 pm »
At some point the youngins will realize that almost everyone born before WW2 was a racist sexist homophobe.  I expect most people born before WW2 to be cancelled soon.  My grandparents would be cancelled.  They were nice lovely people in literally way, except for being racists, which probably came from never knowing any non-white people. 

They're now trying to cancel Queen Victoria.  I don't know why.  She's really old?  This school has been around since 1887.  https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/05/toronto-school-named-queen-victoria-may-change-anti-black-racism/

Some people have also started cancelling Homer's The Odyssey because Homer was kinda sexist because he called a bunch of whores in his book "whores".
https://twitter.com/mrshlevine/status/1268564623231528960?lang=en
https://www.wsj.com/articles/even-homer-gets-mobbed-11609095872

The academic entire field of The Classics" is now being questioned.  The woke are trying to destroy Western Civilization.  Even the concept of "Western Civilization" is being canceled by the woke crazies:  https://youtu.be/phiO9RXumi8?t=85
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2021, 03:28:56 pm »
At some point the youngins will realize that almost everyone born before WW2 was a racist sexist homophobe.  I expect most people born before WW2 to be cancelled soon.  My grandparents would be cancelled.  They were nice lovely people in literally way, except for being racists, which probably came from never knowing any non-white people. 

They're now trying to cancel Queen Victoria.  I don't know why.  She's really old?  This school has been around since 1887.  https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/05/toronto-school-named-queen-victoria-may-change-anti-black-racism/

Some people have also started cancelling Homer's The Odyssey because Homer was kinda sexist because he called a bunch of whores in his book "whores".
https://twitter.com/mrshlevine/status/1268564623231528960?lang=en
https://www.wsj.com/articles/even-homer-gets-mobbed-11609095872

The academic entire field of The Classics" is now being questioned.  The woke are trying to destroy Western Civilization.  Even the concept of "Western Civilization" is being canceled by the woke crazies:  https://youtu.be/phiO9RXumi8?t=85


I think they should change the name from Queen Victoria to something else because there's probably someone more worthy/relevant than that dead old Kraut.

The rest is just satanic panic nonsense being whipped up by right-wing hysteria merchants for partisan purposes.
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2021, 05:40:40 pm »
And they're actually trying to cancel the study of racism in schools I think they may need a course in irony

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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2021, 06:52:18 pm »

I think they should change the name from Queen Victoria to something else because there's probably someone more worthy/relevant than that dead old Kraut.

Drake Public School?

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The rest is just satanic panic nonsense being whipped up by right-wing hysteria merchants for partisan purposes.

We should cancel the alt-right satanic website BlogTO.
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« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2021, 08:33:37 pm »
Drake Public School?

We should cancel the alt-right satanic website BlogTO.

I was actually talking about the other two dumb articles you posted and you filling your diaper with "they're trying to destroy western civilization" nonsense.

The blog TO article is actually pretty good and outlines a lot of good arguments for changing the name, not because old Vicky was a racist (though she was) but because it makes sense to have instutions reflect the communities they serve an not some long dead monarch who never even set foot in this country.

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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2021, 04:20:48 pm »
The blog TO article is actually pretty good and outlines a lot of good arguments for changing the name, not because old Vicky was a racist (though she was) but because it makes sense to have instutions reflect the communities they serve an not some long dead monarch who never even set foot in this country.

I don't think starting to rename very old public institutions based on tribal identities would help our national unity problem.  Most of the kids in the school are Canadian I assume, I don't see how they're any different that way from anyone else who has attended the school.

They also didn't have airplanes in the 1800's so I'm not offended by a Monarch not boating around the world to all the commonwealths.
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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2021, 10:48:39 am »
I don't think starting to rename very old public institutions based on tribal identities would help our national unity problem.  Most of the kids in the school are Canadian I assume, I don't see how they're any different that way from anyone else who has attended the school.

What is Queen Victoria to a student in the 21st Century? A relic, a name, nothing more.

Telling that you don't see the WASPness that Queen Victoria represents as being a "tribal identity".

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« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2021, 01:08:53 pm »
New Zealand has incorporated a lot of indigenous culture into their national identity which seems pretty cool. They use indigenous greetings. Students in schools perform haka dances (as well as sports teams). There's no reason we couldn't embrace indigenous cultures here in Canada that way. We simply choose not to.

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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2021, 01:34:18 pm »
New Zealand has incorporated a lot of indigenous culture into their national identity which seems pretty cool. They use indigenous greetings. Students in schools perform haka dances (as well as sports teams). There's no reason we couldn't embrace indigenous cultures here in Canada that way. We simply choose not to.

Fair point, but the challenge here is we have many different Indigenous cultures here vs. just one like in New Zealand.
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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2021, 01:38:09 pm »
Fair point, but the challenge here is we have many different Indigenous cultures here vs. just one like in New Zealand.

But any event is located on formal tribal land.

In Toronto they give a thanks to the local tribes now.  I just don't think their list of tribes is entirely accurate.