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Offline Omni

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Calling all sailors
« on: March 21, 2019, 03:47:28 pm »
Long story short, I grew up in a house, then decided to go live on a boat, then back to a house, now I'm thinking about the live aboard boat thing again. I'm seeing a pretty good deal on a 50 foot Beneteau. Anybody else gone through this silliness?
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Re: Calling all sailors
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2019, 04:15:56 pm »
Quote from: Omni on March 21, 2019, 03:47:28 pm
Long story short, I grew up in a house, then decided to go live on a boat, then back to a house, now I'm thinking about the live aboard boat thing again. I'm seeing a pretty good deal on a 50 foot Beneteau. Anybody else gone through this silliness?

Beneteau's look nice, but I heard they are not well built. Unfortunately they have a large part of the market, so there are plenty around. I like their Jeanneau (Sun Odyssey) line the best, they bought out that company about 20 years ago. The Europeans seem to have cornered the monohull market for a while now. For something between 30-40 feet, I like Sirius. If you are looking a little larger, then Amel are really interesting but expensive. Ontario used to have a very active industry, but that was long lost. I believe Gozzard is still making a few boats a year, and you might find some on the used market. They are more traditional style, not like the European vertical bow and wide beam far aft.

I haven't gone through the silliness, but I am thinking about it. They say the two best days in your life are the one when you buy a boat, and the one when you sell it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 05:15:42 pm »
Quote from: ?Impact on March 21, 2019, 04:15:56 pm
Beneteau's look nice, but I heard they are not well built. Unfortunately they have a large part of the market, so there are plenty around. I like their Jeanneau (Sun Odyssey) line the best, they bought out that company about 20 years ago. The Europeans seem to have cornered the monohull market for a while now. For something between 30-40 feet, I like Sirius. If you are looking a little larger, then Amel are really interesting but expensive. Ontario used to have a very active industry, but that was long lost. I believe Gozzard is still making a few boats a year, and you might find some on the used market. They are more traditional style, not like the European vertical bow and wide beam far aft.

I haven't gone through the silliness, but I am thinking about it. They say the two best days in your life are the one when you buy a boat, and the one when you sell it.

I appreciate your comments and I will certainly follow up. I have also looked at the Sirius and like them as well. The Benetau I mentioned is a bit larger than I really need but she's roomy and well outfitted, especially for a live aboard. And it's parked not far from home so not a big deal to go take a look. A friend of mine has a Tayana 37 which I have sailed with her a few times and it impressed me both in terms of seaworthiness and comfort.
And yes, the day I bought my first boat, a C+C 35 which I had for 4 years while I roamed around the east coast US and the Bahamas, and the day I sold it were happy days. Although the day I sold it I recall having a long talk with myself promising not to ever forget how much I enjoyed sailing.

One of the nicest recollections I have is when you get out of the harbor, hoist some dacron, silence the kicker, and throw a fishing line over side while you pour a rum.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 05:17:44 pm »
Omni, that's pretty badass.  Living on a boat would be very interesting.  Did you live out on the ocean?  Mostly tied up at port somewhere?  How does that life work?
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 05:21:12 pm »
Quote from: Poonlight Graham on March 21, 2019, 05:17:44 pm
Mostly tied up at port somewhere?

That takes money. A lot of people who live aboard will spend their time, when not under sail, in anchorages.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2019, 05:27:32 pm »
Quote from: Omni on March 21, 2019, 05:15:42 pm
...in terms of seaworthiness and comfort...

I should clarify my earlier comment. From what I can tell, Beneteau's have a good reputation for seaworthiness; Other than the Cheeki Rafiki, and maybe some rudder failures, they are good for blue water cruising. What I was referencing was mostly the quality of workmanship in the cabin interior.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2019, 05:52:01 pm »
Quote from: Poonlight Graham on March 21, 2019, 05:17:44 pm
Omni, that's pretty badass.  Living on a boat would be very interesting.  Did you live out on the ocean?  Mostly tied up at port somewhere?  How does that life work?

I bought my boat in Marblehead Mass., just north of Boston, and headed down the east coast with a project in mind to eventually get to Nassau, which is where I first ever set foot on a sailboat. Truth to tell I didn't know much about sailing but I kinda got the hang of, or I guess I wouldn't be here typing. I went up Deleware Bay, through the C+D canal and then down the Chesapeake. Beautiful place and where you can learn a lot about sailing because the place is full of serious boaters. Then finally to that dock in Nassau. You can sail from island to island, throw out an anchor in calm waters and row your dinghy ashore for a visit with the locals. The only time my boat was in port for any length of time was when I had to go back to work to get a few bucks back into the bank account. One thing I came to appreciate about the sailing community is that they tend to take care of each other.
That and being able to dive off the stern and come back up with a string bag full of conch.     
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 05:53:24 pm »
Quote from: ?Impact on March 21, 2019, 05:21:12 pm
That takes money. A lot of people who live aboard will spend their time, when not under sail, in anchorages.

Exactly. That's why you have a dinghy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 05:58:30 pm »
Quote from: ?Impact on March 21, 2019, 05:27:32 pm
I should clarify my earlier comment. From what I can tell, Beneteau's have a good reputation for seaworthiness; Other than the Cheeki Rafiki, and maybe some rudder failures, they are good for blue water cruising. What I was referencing was mostly the quality of workmanship in the cabin interior.

Well as I say, that boat is not far away so I'm gonna see if I can arrange a visit over the weekend. Weathers nice for sure.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 06:24:18 pm »
Quote from: Poonlight Graham on March 21, 2019, 05:17:44 pm
Omni, that's pretty badass.  Living on a boat would be very interesting.  Did you live out on the ocean?  Mostly tied up at port somewhere?  How does that life work?

And you need one of these boys too. Just like a bow and arrow for under water. A good quick way to get lobster if you like them.

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Re: Calling all sailors
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 07:24:55 pm »
Quote from: Omni on March 21, 2019, 03:47:28 pm
Long story short, I grew up in a house, then decided to go live on a boat, then back to a house, now I'm thinking about the live aboard boat thing again. I'm seeing a pretty good deal on a 50 foot Beneteau. Anybody else gone through this silliness?
I've only ever lived on a boat when I had to at work.  I have an old Albion crabber on blocks I'm planning on restoring. My goal is to get it log salvaging. I have a little skiff for commuting back and forth across the bay and hauling up a crab or jigging something for dinner along the way.

I did see the silliness seize the idiot who bought my old fish-boat and figured on living the dream. Somewhere along the way he finally got around to scraping and painting the hull.  He bought a can of ordinary red paint thinking that's what it was people were using. He didn't have a clue it was anti-fouling copper-paint.  Didn't take long for the teredo worms to sink her.

BOAT=Bring On Another Thousand.

I still skipper boats every day but I'm really not into living on them.  I'm kinda looking forward to going out log salvaging and I can see camping out on the beach.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 07:38:06 pm »
Quote from: eyeball on March 21, 2019, 07:24:55 pm
I've only ever lived on a boat when I had to at work.  I have an old Albion crabber on blocks I'm planning on restoring. My goal is to get it log salvaging. I have a little skiff for commuting back and forth across the bay and hauling up a crab or jigging something for dinner along the way.

I did see the silliness seize the idiot who bought my old fish-boat and figured on living the dream. Somewhere along the way he finally got around to scraping and painting the hull.  He bought a can of ordinary red paint thinking that's what it was people were using. He didn't have a clue it was anti-fouling copper-paint.  Didn't take long for the teredo worms to sink her.

BOAT=Bring On Another Thousand.

I still skipper boats every day but I'm really not into living on them.  I'm kinda looking forward to going out log salvaging and I can see camping out on the beach.

Yes there's that old adage about boats that describes "a round hole in the water, surrounded by wood, into which one pours money" But gawd I like fresh caught seafood!
 
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Re: Calling all sailors
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 08:36:38 pm »
Quote from: ?Impact on March 21, 2019, 05:21:12 pm
That takes money. A lot of people who live aboard will spend their time, when not under sail, in anchorages.

Anchorages?  Is that being an area near shore you can just set your anchor and stay there for awhile?
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2019, 08:49:52 pm »
Quote from: Omni on March 21, 2019, 05:52:01 pm
I bought my boat in Marblehead Mass., just north of Boston, and headed down the east coast with a project in mind to eventually get to Nassau, which is where I first ever set foot on a sailboat. Truth to tell I didn't know much about sailing but I kinda got the hang of, or I guess I wouldn't be here typing. I went up Deleware Bay, through the C+D canal and then down the Chesapeake. Beautiful place and where you can learn a lot about sailing because the place is full of serious boaters. Then finally to that dock in Nassau. You can sail from island to island, throw out an anchor in calm waters and row your dinghy ashore for a visit with the locals. The only time my boat was in port for any length of time was when I had to go back to work to get a few bucks back into the bank account. One thing I came to appreciate about the sailing community is that they tend to take care of each other.
That and being able to dive off the stern and come back up with a string bag full of conch.     

That's unbelievably cool.  If my dad were younger he'd love to do that with me I think, though not sure he's ever sailed, but he's been around fishing boats and whatnot his whole life.

I would think that's far more interesting of a way to travel than by long-distance car rides, which bore me to death often, and you're stuck in such a confined space for so long.  Would be fun to have the sun and wind on your face, though i don't know how these larger sailboats work.

Does the coast guard ever give you much grief?  Once you cross into American waters do they tend to leave you alone?  And going into shore painless in terms of authorities bothering you?
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2019, 08:51:58 pm »
Cool thing about sailing to me would be so many great cities are on the coast anyways.  Imagine sailing down the California coast would seem like fun as hell too.
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